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WG Coil Mod - How hard is it to accomplish?
- bill_wilcox100
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1977 KZ650-B1 (Stock)
Upgrades:
- Dyna S Electronic Ignition (DS2-2)
- Dyna 3 Ohm Coils (DC1-1)
- Coil Repowering Mod
- Progressive Springs Front & Rear
- Saddlemen Seat Cover
- New Metallic Red Re-Paint & Repro Badges.
Montreal, Canada
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From what I can tell this is at least the second pictorial you have completed. IMO this has added a lot of clarity around how to perform the coil mod.
Thanks for taking the time to document your work.
Gents, Herr has also done some fantastic work building his seat, and had also supported that work with a great photo montage.
In the future if anyone asks about the hard start up / sooty plugs symptoms - mention the WG Coil mod and send them to this thread.
I am going to the Canadian tire to try and find the necessay parts for this upgrade.
One last question before I endevour to complete this work, is the fin type auto fuse better or the traditional glass tube fuse ?
Any opinions?
Rockin\' a KZ650B2 since 2007 and a KZ 1000E since 2008
1978 KZ650B
1979 KZ1000ST
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B4 I started, I had 8.3V coming to the coils, and I had a heck of a time getting the bike to start, even when it was already warm. Forget using the start button; I'd kick it about 10 times to get it started cold, and 3-5 times when it was warm.
When I finished I have 11.5V at the coils, almost a 40% increase in voltage. And starting it this morning, I bumped the starter button and it fired right up! Oh my bike is so happy! BTW, it cost me about $40 altogether, since I had none of the wires or connections.
1977 KZ650C
East TN
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Thanks!
Tom
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We don't have Canadian tire stores here. We have Autozone and Advanced auto. At Autozone he found a relay but said he didn't have a pigtail. Is there some part numbers available for the relay and pigtail?
I went to both places; neither had a pigtail. I used standard female plug-in connectors. The ones I got, the one end was the shrink tubing stuff so it makes a waterproof connection. I coated the female to relay connections with dielectric grease to give it better corrosion resistance. With this setup, I didn't even need to solder anything.
1977 KZ650C
East TN
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1. www.waytekwire.com
2. www.mcmelectronics.com
3. www.partexpress.com
4. www.delcity.net
5. www.alliedelec.com
Just a small listing of what is avaiable on the net.
1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
GLCM BGM-109 Tomahawk, AGM-129A Advanced Cruise Missile (ACM)
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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I got the bike in fantastic cosmetic condition but not running. It currently runs well after doing the following over the past few weeks:
- Set and cleaned points (they look good so I dind't change them) - checked timing and it was spot on.
- carb rebuild and cleaning (they weren't bad, actually) removed all jets and emulsion tubes, adjusted float height to within 5 mm, got
pilot screws adjusted as well as possible.
- replaced carb boots and clamps - no leaks when tested with starter fluid
- ensured that stock airbox was attached properly. I actually have to use duct tape to seal it on there as it was slightly damaged by a
P.O., but it is all original and I have an oil-wet foam filter on it. It draws pretty well through the two intake holes, so I think it's good.
- adjusted the valves
- checked tank / petcock / fuel line / filter and all was nice and clean and working properly. I put in a new filter and fuel line just in case.
Each step caused the bike to run a little better. As it is, the plugs, especially the right one, get sooty even though I think the bike is running fairly lean (will rev higher when choked even after warmed up). It's not smoking or anything.
I'm looking at other opetions for the sooty plug issue and for a remaining hesitation at 1/4 throttle or so. I'll start another thread on that though.
What I've accomplished so far is largely due to the guys on this forum, and I really appreciate having all this info available. Thanks so much!
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It's good that you're going to keep looking. For what it's worth the coil mod is a bandaid solution to only one problem. That's voltage drop between the battery and the coils. Turn on the ignition | Check the voltage at the battery | Check the voltage at the coils | The voltage difference should be somewhere less than a half a volt.milesotoole wrote: Ha...sorry guys, I shouuld have given you the low-down. I've done everything I can think of except for syncing the carbs. That's on the agenda for this weekend.
...I'm looking at other opetions for the sooty plug issue and for a remaining hesitation at 1/4 throttle or so. I'll start another thread on that though.
If the voltage drop is more than a half a volt you've got two options, clean all the connections between the battery and the coils or do the coil mod. When cleaning the connections don't neglect the ignition switch.
The best thing about the coil mod is that it's easy to take off after you find it doesn't help.
Bill
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1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
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