WG Coil Mod - How hard is it to accomplish?

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13 Aug 2008 08:39 #231761 by KOOL RYDER
I am interested in getting rid of the sooty plug problem.

I have to clean them about every 1000kms and was wondering if the coil mod had any impact on HP or performance?

Is the benifit of the WG coil mod 2 fold, ie power + reducing carbon fouling?

I have reviewed the info on WG website and was thinking about attempting this.

Rockin\' a KZ650B2 since 2007 and a KZ 1000E since 2008

1978 KZ650B
1979 KZ1000ST

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13 Aug 2008 08:50 #231765 by mtkawboy
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Very easy to do with points or a Dyna S, takes a little more time with factory electronic ignition. Go to wired georges web site and it walks you right thru it

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13 Aug 2008 08:51 #231767 by bill_wilcox100
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Yes and Yes to both questions, IMHO.

Then I would add the all important RELIABILITY factor, again IMHO.

$10 USD, best bang for the buck on this site.

This is how I did mine, see here:


s259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/bill_w...ngModsCoilPower2.jpg

Best of success and let us know how it turns out.

1977 KZ650-B1 (Stock)
Upgrades:
- Dyna S Electronic Ignition (DS2-2)
- Dyna 3 Ohm Coils (DC1-1)
- Coil Repowering Mod
- Progressive Springs Front & Rear
- Saddlemen Seat Cover
- New Metallic Red Re-Paint & Repro Badges.
Montreal, Canada

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13 Aug 2008 13:40 #231828 by HerrDeacon
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Awesome pic Bill, thank you very much for posting that.

I just picked up the relay and inline fuse today, so I'm going to get started with this mod tonight or tomorrow. However, I never picked up the "press-in male connector" because I don't know exactly what they are. Anyone have a pic of one of these and the crimp on female lug connectors?

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13 Aug 2008 13:50 - 13 Aug 2008 14:14 #231831 by bill_wilcox100
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Well, usually the same auto parts shop that sells the relay has the matching connector with pigtail wires. Did you get yours at Canadian Tire? Should be under $2.00 USD and mine looked a lot like this one:





Best of success. :)

PS
New Foundland is a really big place. Where are you located?

1977 KZ650-B1 (Stock)
Upgrades:
- Dyna S Electronic Ignition (DS2-2)
- Dyna 3 Ohm Coils (DC1-1)
- Coil Repowering Mod
- Progressive Springs Front & Rear
- Saddlemen Seat Cover
- New Metallic Red Re-Paint & Repro Badges.
Montreal, Canada
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13 Aug 2008 14:20 #231840 by HerrDeacon
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Thanks Bill, but isn't that pic of the pigtail for the relay? I was looking for the "press-in male connector" that WG says is in the parts needed. I picked up my relay (and pigtail) from an auto place just down the road from me.

Is the press-in male connector just a bullet connector? I know everyone has different terms for electical components.

I live in St. John's.

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13 Aug 2008 14:32 - 13 Aug 2008 14:34 #231849 by rstnick
Replied by rstnick on topic WG Coil Mod - How hard is it to accomplish?
This diagram may help:


Easy mod. Disconnect the battery while doing any electrical work.
The red/yellow wire that powers both coils is the only existing wire your dealing with on the bike.
Unplug the two coil power wires. The feeding red wire with the dual plug from the wiring harness gets attached to lug# 86 with a length of new wire, and then from lug# 87 you run a wire back and to the two coils.
Then it's a new wire from the starter solenoid + wire with an inline fuse to lug# 36 or 30 depending on your relay you bought.
And then a ground wire to lug# 85. I connected this to one of the black/yellow ground wires near the battery's neg terminal.

I did the mod when I had points. I have since switched to a stock late model Kawi electronic Igntion and did not require any changes to the mod.

Rob
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13 Aug 2008 14:57 - 13 Aug 2008 15:00 #231860 by bill_wilcox100
Replied by bill_wilcox100 on topic WG Coil Mod - How hard is it to accomplish?
Sorry, thought you were looking for the relay socket and pigtail. :pinch:

The only other connector I have in mine is a bullet type for which I found one that fits at Canadian Tire... no I don't work for Canadian Tire. :laugh:

If you want the 100% identical male and or female connectors try here:



At about $5.00 USD, pretty hard to beat the price... for the real thing.

No I don't work for Z1 either. :laugh:

Best of success. :)
Bill

1977 KZ650-B1 (Stock)
Upgrades:
- Dyna S Electronic Ignition (DS2-2)
- Dyna 3 Ohm Coils (DC1-1)
- Coil Repowering Mod
- Progressive Springs Front & Rear
- Saddlemen Seat Cover
- New Metallic Red Re-Paint & Repro Badges.
Montreal, Canada
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13 Aug 2008 15:04 #231864 by KOOL RYDER
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I am a rookie when it comes to wiring, i have not used a multi meter in years.

Anyways, From what I gather you only need 1 12V relay and that is pretty much it.

Relay, wire, fuse holder and fuse.

Where does the wire from the starter solenoid connect?

Are we talking about the starting motor?

That is pretty much the only grey area I have for now.

Thanks guys.

KR

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1979 KZ1000ST

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14 Aug 2008 01:06 - 14 Aug 2008 01:11 #231926 by Royal1MC
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KOOL RYDER wrote:

Where does the wire from the starter solenoid connect?

Where the red battery cable connects to the solenoid. Place your inline fuse between the solenoid and the relay. Unscrew the positive lug and use a connector to attach the inline fuse. Please disconnect the battery.


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14 Aug 2008 02:50 #231937 by HerrDeacon
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Thanks again Bill. I have some bullet types kicking around at home so I should be good to go.

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14 Aug 2008 07:02 #231955 by wiredgeorge
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The trigger wire is yellow/red on most models, red or pink on others. It is never red/yellow as depicted in the drawing in this thread.

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