Bike won't start after carb cleaning

@!Seymore
Removed the whole thing and took them apart. They came apart fine, but it looks like someone at some point tightened the hell out of the drain screw as evidenced by partial stripping. I suspect it's because they were leaking. Someone was probably too lazy to just buy some new O rings.

@kaw-a-holic
I'll take a look. I didn't touch the float levels as the guy before me claimed to have rebuilt the carbs. Everything looked new so I figured they were dialed in. I'll probably have to check for myself though. Like I said, it did run before I took the carbs off.

@swest
I did get a look inside of the bowls and didn't see anything. The other side of the drain screw looked fine. I'm assuming they're just tightened to hell.

@650ed
I think you're right. Battery is putting out 11 volts currently. I'm definitely going to stick to the kickstarter though. Hey and are you on kz650.info? If so I've tried to make an account there twice now and I'm still waiting to get approved by the admins. What's the deal?

Anyway, headed back out to the garage right now. I should also mention that I'm not sure how long the gas in the bike has been in there right now. It'd probably be a good idea to get some fresh gas right? The guy I bought the bike from claimed it was his daily rider.

Yes, I use KZ650info. I'll see what I can do to help there. Ed

KZJordan wrote: I should also mention that I'm not sure how long the gas in the bike has been in there right now. It'd probably be a good idea to get some fresh gas right? The guy I bought the bike from claimed it was his daily rider.

Thanks for your reply Jordan...

RE fuel: yes, please drain and refill with fresh. The old stuff can be used in any cage. They are far less picky...

You don't list your location, so I can only presume you're in the good ol' US of A? If so, please try to avoid todays contaminated fuel (with water, aka: ethanol) and see if you can find a location near you with the "good stuff". Here's a link for your persual: pure-gas.org/

@650ed
Awesome, thanks man.

@!Seymore
Ouch, looks like the nearest one is about 2 hours or so away. I'm in Texas, the DFW area.

Small update: took off the carbs, made sure my my throttle valve clearance was good and threw them back on. Still nothing. I think I'm going to get a new battery and see what that does. If that doesn't help then I think I may have to take it to someone that actually knows a thing or two.

On the plus side I freed up those drai n screws with my new impact driver and put on new throttle cables.

You can have the cleanest carbs in the world and the float levels set right, however like GPZ eric said if the clamps on the intake boots are not tight enough all your pistons are going to do is suck in air, and you can crank all you want and have no combustion. If clamps on boots need replacing do so or make sure that they are tight so that you get both fuel and air.

You can try using a propane torch on the bowel itself being careful not to heat up the brass screw. That might expand the aluminum enough to get it out. Off the carb of course. I use High Tech Battery Solutions for my batteries. Much cheaper, 1 year warranty and you can talk to them. The one I bought from AZ went bad in 4 months. They just wanted to sell me another $80 battery. F em!
Steve

@mopguy
I made sure those clamps were nice and tight today. The boots themselves also nice and rubbery. Took a moment to check em out when I had the carbs off today.

@swest
I ended up getting those drain screws off with a manual impact driver. I'll look into High Tech Battery. Pretty sure getting a new battery will be my next move as this one is currently at 11V. Man I hope that's all it is.

It should be 14 V. At 11, the battery is sucking all the juice the bike can generate. This is a common problem on this forum. Guys too cheap to buy a new battery. Why do you think they took off the kick starter? The Z1R had the lever under the seat, then it was gone. I like having mine but seldom use it. Good to have, just in case.
Steve

Fair enough. I just assumed the battery was 12V new. I mean, a volt is a lot as it is, but 3 volts is just ridiculous. Anyway, thanks for the heads up.

The voltage will drop as soon as you turn the key. It's the amps that make the difference. If it's below 12, there's little or no amps behind it.

This is one of those "lucky you" moments. You may not realize it but this is where you master the inns and outs of your bike.

I had carb trouble with my gt750 4 years ago, now I rebuild carbs for profit. Lol.


1st, good job on keeping the stock air box.

2nd, glad to see you attempting a carb cleaning. It can be daunting.


If you have them cleaned, and the boots are new then I'd assume there is a small over sight that's causing them to not pull fuel.

Take off the stock air box and cover the end of the carb with your hand. Turn the engine over and see if you can feel suction. You should also see gas once you remove your hand.

If no suction then they aren't attached right

If no gas then they aren't cleaned or adjusted right.

Hope that helps.

This may sound dumb and someone may have said this already. Make sure your vacuum tubes are in the correct spots. I made the mistake once of connecting a vacuum tube to a fuel port and then my fuel line to a vacuum port.