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20 Jul 2014 23:49 #640766 by bountyhunter
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Schmeck wrote: Been alittle bit but I am almost there. Got my jets in today and I think my 55 pilot jet is too small :/ I started it up and it didn't want to run smooth without choke on . It idles slightly under 2000rpm with choke on. If I turn it off the idle goes to 3000 and won't come down.

I was going to say that sounds like a vacuum leak but with straight pipes and pods, I have no idea. I recall the pilot jets are available is size up to 60 (?)

Schmeck wrote: On another note I rode around a few miles with the choke on and it seemed to ride ok other than the high idle. Can I put a colder plug in to fight the lean condition ? It would probably be a good idea to prevent possible engine overheating .

I doubt it. But you could try going one colder (B7ES) and see what happens. Worst it could do is start fouling plugs.

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21 Jul 2014 13:15 #640829 by Schmeck
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I have b7es in already . My local zone store doesn't carry b6es unfortunately unless I go with the resistance plug with the r in the number . Does clip position affect idle ? I'm sure it's for mid range power between pilot and main . Again I *think . I don't believe I have a vacuum leak either because I had it before and replaced the manifolds so I know what that's like.

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21 Jul 2014 13:22 #640832 by Schmeck
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Anyone know what size a #60 jet would be in drill bit sizes? I think I have the original pilot 45 jets that I could drill out alittle just to find my size .

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21 Jul 2014 13:31 #640836 by bountyhunter
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Schmeck wrote: I have b7es in already . My local zone store doesn't carry b6es unfortunately unless I go with the resistance plug with the r in the number . Does clip position affect idle ?

I believe it should not because the slides should be all the way down. See the graph taken from the service manual. The main jet doesn't kick in until about 1/4 throttle opening ballpark.

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21 Jul 2014 13:33 #640837 by bountyhunter
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Schmeck wrote: Anyone know what size a #60 jet would be in drill bit sizes? I think I have the original pilot 45 jets that I could drill out alittle just to find my size .

I don't remember the conversion for that. I do remember people posting that hole diameter isn't the only factor but also how the end of the hole is radiused over affects flow. The pilot jets are actually pretty cheap, I recall they are about $3 each and everybody sells them. I think the part type is BS30-96 if my memory works today.

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21 Jul 2014 15:04 #640856 by Schmeck
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Yeah they are cheap . I bought the 55s but I have slot of tiny drill bits that could save me some time cuz time is money haha

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21 Jul 2014 18:27 #640880 by Schmeck
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In the process of making these covers to possibly restrict alittle air flow . It allows air through the bottom only . Had some random sheet metal and some rivets so why not try it right

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21 Jul 2014 20:17 #640888 by Schmeck
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Made these. Will test them tomorrow. Kinda look like mail boxes but whatever lol

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21 Jul 2014 20:18 #640889 by Schmeck
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26 Jul 2014 11:20 #641501 by Schmeck
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Took those metal cans off and noticed my air filter on right carb was slightly leaning . Underneath the rubber had torn from the clamp. Air leak. :0

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31 Jul 2014 18:42 #642197 by Schmeck
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Got bigger jets and mains and tunes everything. Idles perfectly at 1 rpm but when I try to drive it's like the throttle hangs up and it bogs . Hit the throttle and it will drive just no more than 5-10 mph. Sounds like a law mower . What am I missing here?

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