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16 Oct 2013 02:40 #610175 by megadub72
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When I sit at a light, it idles just fine. When I get ready to go from the light, if I just go straight to throttle, it will die. If I tap the throttle first, then takeoff there is no problem. It is apparently a weak point, but I do not know if it is a needle position or a pilot jet problem. Has anyone dealt with this hesitation off idle? How did you fix it?

1979 KZ1000ST daily rider
Aftermarket Header 4-1

1980 KZ1300 project
Stock, so far

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16 Oct 2013 08:42 #610185 by koolaid_kid
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Whatcha riding?

1983 GPz 750
810 Wiseco, Kerker, K&N, DynoJet S3, Accel, Progressive, etc.

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16 Oct 2013 10:20 #610198 by Cynjut
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If this has just started happening, it sounds like a fuel limiting 'clog' in one of the jets. This might be a good test for some good carb or FI cleaner.

1977 KZ-1000 A1
1982 KZ-1000 M2 Frankenbike

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16 Oct 2013 10:31 #610203 by Patton
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carb sync?

pilot screw adjustments?

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1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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16 Oct 2013 11:24 #610217 by megadub72
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It's a '79 KZ1000 ST. I just bought it a couple months ago, and it has always done the hesitation. The funny part is that I bought it from a dealer, and they had done a bunch of work to it, already. Clean carbs, new plugs, new wires, new stator, etc. But, I can tell from riding it for awhile, it needs some more work.

It idles very nicely, so I am guessing the pilot screw is pretty good. Maybe, I will need to invest in a carb syncer to see if they are off a little.

1979 KZ1000ST daily rider
Aftermarket Header 4-1

1980 KZ1300 project
Stock, so far

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16 Oct 2013 11:39 #610222 by koolaid_kid
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Not sure what folk on this forum use, but on another forum the Morgan Carbtune is considered the gold standard. It's a one-time investment, and well worth it iMHO.

1983 GPz 750
810 Wiseco, Kerker, K&N, DynoJet S3, Accel, Progressive, etc.

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16 Oct 2013 12:09 - 16 Oct 2013 12:41 #610225 by Patton
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megadub72 wrote: ... It idles very nicely, so I am guessing the pilot screw is pretty good....


More than just idle quality, the pilot screw regulates carb performance throughout the pilot circuit, including tuning for a strong smooth pull-away from idle.

Same for sync.

Would suspect that pilot circuit is either too rich or too lean, either of which could contribute to poor performance at pull-away from idle.

Of course, there are many possible conditions that might result in the reported issue, such as noted in the FSM:




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1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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16 Oct 2013 13:34 #610226 by bemoore
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I had this problem when I had pods. When I re-installed the airbox, the problem improved quite a bit. I tweaked the air screws and was able to get the hesitation completely eliminated.

77 KZ650C1 w/Kerker 4-1

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16 Oct 2013 15:37 #610242 by koolaid_kid
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Pods can be difficult to tune, to be sure. I used a wideband, so it made it much easier. Not everyone has access to one, unfortunately, and is forced to use the plug chop method.

1983 GPz 750
810 Wiseco, Kerker, K&N, DynoJet S3, Accel, Progressive, etc.

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16 Oct 2013 15:50 #610244 by megadub72
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It has the standard airbox, but it does have an aftermarket header. I will adjust the pilot screws to be sure they are set correctly. We will go from there.

1979 KZ1000ST daily rider
Aftermarket Header 4-1

1980 KZ1300 project
Stock, so far

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16 Oct 2013 15:56 #610246 by koolaid_kid
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With a header all you should need to do is increase the size of the main jets.

1983 GPz 750
810 Wiseco, Kerker, K&N, DynoJet S3, Accel, Progressive, etc.

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16 Oct 2013 22:54 #610282 by Patton
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Any popping from the exhaust on deceleration?
If so, any such popping may indicate a too lean pilot circuit.

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1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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