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19 Sep 2012 00:15 #549609 by kzz1king
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kzz1king wrote: Yep, tube method, have a stand made so it is level. It leaks off and on the stand. I am just thinking the move to the stand may make the float hang up.Can have the bike straight up and fuel runs out the mouth of the carb. That is a long ways past the bowl parting line. Shutting the petcock only keeps gas from running out when parked. It does not prevent the cylinder from being flooded when going down the road. The problem is intermittent. Thanks for the comments.
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19 Sep 2012 01:25 #549620 by BlackZ1R
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Have you swapped needle/seats from another carb to see if it still leaks? Float swap?
If it still leaks it sounds like a cracked carb body. Possibly where the seat mounts in the body.

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19 Sep 2012 10:03 #549648 by kzz1king
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I had not thought of nor do I want to think of that! That is my next plan though to swap float and needle/seat assembly tween 1 and 4. It is not. I repeat,it is not a cracked carb ;)
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BlackZ1R wrote: Have you swapped needle/seats from another carb to see if it still leaks? Float swap?
If it still leaks it sounds like a cracked carb body. Possibly where the seat mounts in the body.


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19 Sep 2012 10:09 #549650 by Motor Head
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In-line filter? Tank cleaned also?
With them off on your carb stand, pull the bowl and hold the float up with your fuel bottle/ source connected. You should see the leak, if at the float valve I would Replace it.

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19 Sep 2012 22:18 #549758 by kzz1king
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Looks like it is the needle/seat. Swapped 1 and 4 and the slow,steady drip moved to 4. Now if I can remember my Z1 login :angry: I was thinking it might be the gasket so I but the seat into the hose on the end of my auxiliary tank and it seeped. Polished it up good to no avail. Thanks all.
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19 Sep 2012 22:20 #549759 by BlackZ1R
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Aww crud, I was thinking he already had new float valves in place.

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19 Sep 2012 22:22 #549760 by Motor Head
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kzz1king wrote: Looks like it is the needle/seat. Swapped 1 and 4 and the slow,steady drip moved to 4. Now if I can remember my Z1 login :angry: I was thinking it might be the gasket so I but the seat into the hose on the end of my auxiliary tank and it seeped. Polished it up good to no avail. Thanks all.
Wayne

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19 Sep 2012 22:23 #549761 by wireman
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You can swap them out without removing carbs from bike if you dont mind laying on the floor,saves lots of work pulling/reinstalling carbs.
If your gaskets are still good smear a little chapstick on them to keep them from drying out/sticking B)

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19 Sep 2012 22:34 #549765 by kzz1king
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Gonna try that chapstick trick,thanks. I got them on the bench. I am going to do everything I can to make sure they work brfore going back on. It is a piece of cake though compared to the carbs on my Concourse.
Wayne

wireman wrote: You can swap them out without removing carbs from bike if you dont mind laying on the floor,saves lots of work pulling/reinstalling carbs.
If your gaskets are still good smear a little chapstick on them to keep them from drying out/sticking B)


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19 Sep 2012 22:36 #549767 by kzz1king
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BlackZ1R wrote: Aww crud, I was thinking he already had new float valves in place.

They don't have a lot of use on them but a lot of age.
Wayne

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19 Sep 2012 22:53 #549775 by Motor Head
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kzz1king wrote: Gonna try that chapstick trick,thanks. I got them on the bench. I am going to do everything I can to make sure they work brfore going back on. It is a piece of cake though compared to the carbs on my Concourse.
Wayne


Check out what I did on my Concours to pull the Bowls off easily
www.kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/48...t=20&start=60#490194


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19 Sep 2012 23:01 #549781 by kzz1king
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Motor Head wrote:

kzz1king wrote: Gonna try that chapstick trick,thanks. I got them on the bench. I am going to do everything I can to make sure they work brfore going back on. It is a piece of cake though compared to the carbs on my Concourse.
Wayne


Check out what I did on my Concours to pull the Bowls off easily
www.kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/48...t=20&start=60#490194


I already did it! Maybe got the idea from you. I know I seen the dual clock/voltage pics before. You belong to the ZG Fanatics forum too?
Wayne


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