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30 Dec 2007 18:10 #187030 by Old School Kid
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I've looked all over and it seem there are many different varieties... I have 1980 kz100 z1 classic with normal carb that were put on by previous owner removing stock setup.. I have put a kerker 4 into 1 without baffle and emgos (now i know to go with K&n's) My question is what carbs are on the current set-up. Their Mikuni kogyo and have one fuel line entering between #2-3 carbs.. what size are they 24 or 26 ??????or something else...

I guess my big question is what ball park jets should be in it, for maximum life and performance... i will be taking off the carbs in the morn and will rejet if ne be.....

oh, i've done the coil power bypass thing (rewire) stock coils, #8 plug

thanks

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30 Dec 2007 23:21 #187060 by Patton
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Hello, Old School Kid, and Welcome to the site. We're glad you're here. :cheer:


My Mikuni 29 smoothbores have the single line fuel feed as you described. But am uncertain about which other Mikuni models have it. :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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31 Dec 2007 00:31 #187065 by donthekawguy
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They are probably 26's. I forgot what jets I had in mine but WG will be able to fill you in when he gets a look at this post.

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1971 Kawasaki g3ss
1972 Yamaha R5 350
1965 Suzuki Hillbilly
1964 Yamaha 125

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31 Dec 2007 06:22 #187080 by wiredgeorge
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One fuel line? Can't we get just a bit more info? ID in mm on the engine side? ID mark on flange where carb inserts into bracket? I can't even begin to guess.

wiredgeorge Motorcycle Carburetors
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31 Dec 2007 07:25 #187093 by Old School Kid
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Thanks I was planning on pulling off this morn, but the weather in Georgia is good for a ride....

When i get back and check a few other things I will give them a pull.. I really want to ID these, I like to know what I have and how it all works.. Thanks..

Also noticed #3 carb boot to the motor has a small crack , going to try the wd-40 trick...(z1 enterprises, not listed for 1980 z1, guess i have us a different year, THATS WHY IM TRYING TO ID< SIZE?) might explain the ocational slow drop in rpms?

Thanks again to all.... so i gotta pull them out of the brackets??? thanks:) :)

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31 Dec 2007 07:31 #187095 by otakar
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Usually one good photograph from each side could be enough to identify the units.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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31 Dec 2007 07:47 #187100 by Old School Kid
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I'll try Pictures , Thanks for the Idea... I would hate to make the boot worse while i'm waiting for a new set I need to ride... got the bug bad

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31 Dec 2007 08:53 #187111 by Patton
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Old School Kid wrote:

... Also noticed #3 carb boot to the motor has a small crack , going to try the wd-40 trick...(z1 enterprises, not listed for 1980 z1, guess i have us a different year, THATS WHY IM TRYING TO ID< SIZE?)....


...z1 enterprises, not listed for 1980 z1, guess i have us a different year, THATS WHY IM TRYING TO ID< SIZE

Am guessing the LTD Classic fuel injected model did not use carb holders, beng reason Z1E doesn't list carb holders for the LTD Classic.

And also guessing the standard model 1980 KZ1000 carb holders would fit, and are likely those currently fitted.

Z1E shows the 1980 KZ1000 standard model carb holders as being temporarily out of stock.

Z1E carb holders

Concur with your wanting to verify carb size and type to assure proper fitment of new carb holders. And when determined, believe the good folks at Z1E will know this immediately for your particular application.

Am hoping the carbs are Mikuni 29 smoothbores -- you know, the revered ones often worshipped in hushed tones. :lol:

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31 Dec 2007 13:24 #187134 by Old School Kid
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Here are the pix, thanks for the help.... hope i get the pix on here...

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31 Dec 2007 13:48 #187137 by Old School Kid
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2nd pic... thanks again

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31 Dec 2007 15:23 #187146 by School Teacher
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did they change the head or did they block off the injection port some how?

1976 kz900 in parts but will be going some day soon
1980 kz1000G1
1976 kz900 parts bike
1979 kz1000 shaftie parts bike
1978 kz1000 33mm smoothies 1075 kit
Troutdale Oregon USA

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31 Dec 2007 16:44 #187160 by Patton
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School Teacher wrote:

did they change the head or did they block off the injection port some how?


Am out of my league here, but will suggest that the Z1 Classic fuel injection cylinder head incorporates ports for the injectors to fit (ports not found on a standard head), which ports are located above the larger openings for the "carb holders" (which are called "throttle holders" on the oem Z1 Classic fuel injection.

Can't tell from the pics, but perhaps any manner of block-off should be evident. Seems logical, but I don't know whether the original Z1 Classic head may be readily fitted with carbs by instaling standard carb holders and blocking the injector ports. Other members here will know for sure.

Here for reference is a diagram of the injector head.


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