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29 Sep 2006 06:39 #80432 by Exitpupil
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I got tired of my old car projects and am really enjoying working on a bike for a change. I have a couple of questions:

What modifications would I need to get around 125 crank hp from my 79 KZ1000?

What is the rule of thumb for percent hp loss to the rear wheel on a chain drive bike?

Thanks, this forum is great!

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29 Sep 2006 06:45 #80433 by caffcruiser
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29 Sep 2006 07:37 #80450 by Exitpupil
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Ah-ha Caffcruiser. I've gone that route on cars before and it is fun till the bottle runs out. I know you are poking fun, but I'm looking for typical N/A "engine mods" so the power is always there. "no officer, those aren't NO2 bottles, they are aerodynamic saddle bags".

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29 Sep 2006 07:42 #80452 by 77KZ650
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have you thought about turbocharging? or just a big bore motor?(or both?:evil: :evil: )

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29 Sep 2006 07:52 #80456 by andoman
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Take a look at www.oldkawman.com . He has some interesting and (I think) accurate info on HP gains with different mods. Porting, pipes, cams, big bore, high compression pistons, etc. A KZ1000 is limited to less than 125 HP due to overheating issues on the street. Your goal is probably reachable for track use.

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29 Sep 2006 08:39 #80462 by Duck
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How far up Blue Ridge are you from GA?

125HP? My 400cc Honda four is speced as 56HP@10,750RPM. 11.5:1, 4 valves/cyl, 32mm carbs. Rev limiter at 12,500 RPM ;-) It's pretty quick for a small bike.

Biggest gain comes from getting more mix in and exhaust out and increasing the temp delta(increasing compression). Reasonable displacement increase(not beyond the point where cooling capacity is reduced) wouldn't hurt. Adding oil cooler will help with increased heat dissipation requirements. This is armchair advice as all the engine building I've done has been of the 'repair/rebuild' type. No hotrodding.

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29 Sep 2006 08:42 #80464 by 77KZ650
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hey wireman, tell the guy what you have builtB)

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29 Sep 2006 09:34 #80476 by Exitpupil
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Duck, I'm on the Blue Ridge Pky about 5 miles south of the Va border.

The 83 GPZ1100 I had once upon a time was "rated" @ 120 hp and had no heating problems. It had the power level I'm looking for.

I guess I'll just live with the mild cam upgrade, bigger carbs and pipe until it needs freshing up. Then I can go with the 1075 kit, cams, porting, etc.

Losses through the chain drive anyone?

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29 Sep 2006 11:56 #80494 by Lorcan
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A bike rated at 120hp will typically make 100hp at the wheel. That's not drivechain losses though, that's marketing ;)

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29 Sep 2006 13:34 #80508 by RomSpaceKnight
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I've opted to got with the 12:1 WISECO 1075 kit. Like to run on steet pump gas. Sunoco Gold but not a VP or something.

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29 Sep 2006 14:07 #80513 by Exitpupil
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Romspaceknight, how do you like the kit? How does it run? Does the head flow cause it to run out of breath on top end?

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29 Sep 2006 17:01 #80537 by Fossil
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andoman wrote:

Take a look at www.oldkawman.com . He has some interesting and (I think) accurate info on HP gains with different mods. Porting, pipes, cams, big bore, high compression pistons, etc. A KZ1000 is limited to less than 125 HP due to overheating issues on the street. Your goal is probably reachable for track use.


I would suggest you look elsewhere than the Old Kawman.
My GPz1100 is rated at 120hp stock, what's the difference really between it and a KZ1000 regarding overheating?
I have an 1170cc big bore kit with the compression upped to 10.25:1. No overheating issue here.
I think 125hp is easily done. Porting, carbs, exhaust...APE Jay is probably the guy to set you up.

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