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16 Jun 2023 16:39 #886063 by Nessism
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APE doesn't bore for free, but they give a discount if you buy the piston kit from them.
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16 Jun 2023 17:28 #886066 by SWest
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And that added up to almost free. Last quote I got around here was $400. Most couldn't do it at all. 
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16 Jun 2023 18:58 - 16 Jun 2023 19:00 #886067 by Franklin
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I found the boring information on the APE website. (It's not linked to the parts page so didn't see it before): 

Four Cylinder with Removable blocks
LC100 Bore and hone with piston purchase $140.00
LC150 Bore and hone with customer's pistons $250.00
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16 Jun 2023 19:05 #886068 by Injected
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I found the boring information on the APE website. (It's not linked to the parts page so didn't see it before): 

Four Cylinder with Removable blocks
LC100 Bore and hone with piston purchase $140.00
LC150 Bore and hone with customer's pistons $250.00
 
You have to remember that a "normal" bore job is usually 1mm over, you have to go 3mm over - 3 times as many passes which will be more money. You should make sure and ask them if its extra.

Last time I went 3mm over it was $350 (last years price)
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17 Jun 2023 05:20 #886075 by Nessism
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If you plan on getting 100 horsepower out of a Kz750 motor, you better find yourself some stronger, better con rods. Just remember your motor is only as good as its weakest link. In the 750 motor I built for road racing I used some shot peened and polished GPz or Turbo 750 rods. 

The GPz rods share a common PN with a bunch of different 650 and 750 model bikes.   The 750 Turbo rods are unique, though, so maybe they are hardened? The pin is different.  

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17 Jun 2023 05:54 #886077 by Nebr_Rex
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The pin is 1mm larger.


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2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

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17 Jun 2023 06:41 - 17 Jun 2023 06:47 #886080 by Injected
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If you plan on getting 100 horsepower out of a Kz750 motor, you better find yourself some stronger, better con rods. Just remember your motor is only as good as its weakest link. In the 750 motor I built for road racing I used some shot peened and polished GPz or Turbo 750 rods. I don't remember for sure anymore. Or if you could find yourself some Carrillo rods that would make your bottom end damn near bulletproof!!!! It really sucks when you spend all that money in a motor and it puts a rod through your cases!!!!




 
The GPZ Turbo rods use a 16mm pin, the only aftermarket off the shelf pistons that fit those are the Wiseco 810cc 8:1 flat top turbo pistons.
The stock 650/750 rods are plenty strong to support great HP increases (I have run 40% Nitro on stock 650 rods) The are a forged steel rod and they don't stretch much at all. I have revd my engine to 11K lots of times with a tight piston to head clearance.
The only difference in the 650 and 750 rods is the 750 uses 1mm larger rod bolts. The Turbo rods and the 750 rods are physically identical except for the wrist pin, I do not believe they are hardened or made of special material.
 
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17 Jun 2023 08:29 #886083 by Franklin
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Nebr_Rex, if you are asking if I'm interested in buying the #15 cams from your stash I might be. Please let me know. (I was going to PM you but that function doesn't seem to be working.)

I have a set of both NOS No. 10 and No. 15 cams in somewhere in my stash, if interested I can dig them out.


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17 Jun 2023 10:20 - 17 Jun 2023 10:20 #886089 by Nebr_Rex
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I'll dig them out this afternoon. wrote: Nebr_Rex, if you are asking if I'm interested in buying the #15 cams from your stash I might be. Please let me know. (I was going to PM you but that function doesn't seem to be working.)

I have a set of both NOS No. 10 and No. 15 cams in somewhere in my stash, if interested I can dig them out.


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2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

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17 Jun 2023 18:12 - 17 Jun 2023 18:15 #886112 by Nebr_Rex
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Here they are along with an original bottle of break in lube.

. [attachment=162476]KZ650 cams 7.JPG[

2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

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17 Jun 2023 19:14 #886114 by Franklin
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Thanks for putting those pictures up. I'm interested in the #15's and would like to know what you want for them. I attempted to PM you but that didn't work for me. If you are able to send me a PM we can communicate that way. Otherwise I have a secondary email address I can post here and you could email me. Let me know how you want to work it, I'm kind of new on this forum so not sure how to coordinate this.

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18 Jun 2023 04:57 #886118 by Nebr_Rex
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Do you have PayPal?


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2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=39120.0


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