Spark Plug Hole Thread Repair

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28 May 2022 16:22 #867827 by daveo
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Time-Sert time.  

#3 spark plug hole is the culprit, and two others seem likey to become problems too.  May as well do them all while I'm at it

Which insert material is the best choice to use for a trouble free and permanent fix?


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28 May 2022 16:54 #867832 by gordone
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I purchased a kit like these when I damage my threads some years ago, it has worked perfect since.

I think these is high quality, german quality?

www.klickparts.com/en/workshop/hand-tool...x1-25-kp1240261.html

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28 May 2022 17:40 #867834 by daveo
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I purchased a kit like these when I damage my threads some years ago, it has worked perfect since.

I think these is high quality, german quality?

www.klickparts.com/en/workshop/hand-tool...x1-25-kp1240261.html

Need Time-Sert inserts and kit.  Only need four inserts made specifically for 3/4" spark plug thread length. 
No desire to use aluminum inserts.  Steel inserts would work, but steel may/may not be the best material choice.


 

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28 May 2022 17:50 - 28 May 2022 17:57 #867836 by Scirocco
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Würth aka Wurth Time Sert is the best.

M14 x 1,25 inserts are available in 7,0 / 8,0 / 9,4 / 11,0 / 15,0 / 16,8 mm length.

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28 May 2022 17:51 #867837 by SWest
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I should have gone Helicoil as I planned to do in the first place. 
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28 May 2022 18:08 #867841 by daveo
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I should have gone Helicoil as I planned to do in the first place. 
Steve


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28 May 2022 23:20 #867845 by willemZ900
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Eleven years ago I used a helicoil on cylinder two with the cylinder head in situ. No problems at all and bike is still going strong. 
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29 May 2022 08:53 - 29 May 2022 10:08 #867864 by daveo
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Eleven years ago I used a helicoil on cylinder two with the cylinder head in situ. No problems at all and bike is still going strong. 

Helicoil R513-10, 3/4" reach.  Would that be the correct length to use?

If the Helicoil fails, will a standard (NOT Big-Sert) M14 x 1.25 Time-Sert insert work to replace it?


Or...is the Helicoil Sav-A-Thread 5334-14 kit insert a better choice?
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29 May 2022 10:09 #867866 by Street Fighter LTD
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First time my head came off  I put sparkplug inserts in .
Knowing how anal my buddies and I were with our Kaws it made sense.
 We were always tuning , checking , and changing  parts on our scooters to keep our edge over the rest of the Detroit crowd.
plugs to us were and still are a disposable commodity  in the search for a tenth advantage in a race
Happy Memorial Day Weekend 
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29 May 2022 11:43 #867867 by Nessism
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Helicoil, Time-sert, or special spark plug insert, all will hold the spark plug in place if done correctly.

One question though: is heat transfer to the plug affected by the metal sleeve type inserts?  I suspect it changes things, but maybe not enough to matter?
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29 May 2022 11:58 #867869 by Scirocco
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Time Sert inserts are copper plated for the heat transfer.
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