Spark plug threads on cylinder head

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21 May 2021 08:11 #848811 by kzed
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And can I install those after I install the cylinder head cover? 

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21 May 2021 10:00 #848818 by Mikaw
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Do it now. The thread is 14mm x 1.25. Angle is critical or the plug can hit the seat. 

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21 May 2021 10:37 #848820 by SWest
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May need a big cert for that hole. The angle is critical so do yourself a favor take the head off and find a shop that can do it for you. 
Wish I had. 
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21 May 2021 10:42 #848821 by SWest
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If you get the hole crooked no matter what you use the plug can hit the valve plus the cast in seat is very close to the hole. If the hole is on the wrong angle the plug won't seal against the head. 
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21 May 2021 11:29 - 21 May 2021 11:29 #848823 by cb900f
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Probably going against the grain here a bit but I recently came across a test of the pull out strength of various thread repair options. Helicoil was the strongest - JB weld the weakest Timesert in the middle.
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21 May 2021 11:51 #848825 by kzed
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One last question for the day. Easiest way to get something out of the crank case? I got a magnet bendable thing, cause I dropped a couple of piston snap rings down in there. And then the magnet light I had somehow came unscrewed and something else fell in. I got the battery out. But I’m sure something else might be  there.
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    21 May 2021 12:12 #848826 by kzed
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    Also taking this to a shop isn’t an option for me. One because everyone I call won’t work “old bikes”. And the one I found that will work with me is talking about getting me in in 2 weeks. No way! And also I’ve spent the budget already. It’s DIY from here on out 

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    21 May 2021 12:25 - 21 May 2021 12:27 #848828 by Warren3200gt
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    Those valve seat are still far from okay. They'll need reseating to make them airtight.
    you should he able to get the bits you dropped in the cases by removing the sump. 
    It sounds like you need to find a local enthusiast to give you a hand. BTW, theres no such thing as a budget when it comes to old bikes.
    where are you located,?


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    21 May 2021 14:57 #848833 by Mikaw
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    Pull the pan. Try not to flip it over, hopefully the bits are laying in the oil residue on the pan. It’s cheap insurance anyway. You can clean up the pan and oil pump screen. Good piece of mind for the $40 cost of a pan gasket. 

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    21 May 2021 17:25 - 21 May 2021 17:27 #848838 by kzed
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    Those valve seat are still far from okay. They'll need reseating to make them airtight.
    you should he able to get the bits you dropped in the cases by removing the sump. 
    It sounds like you need to find a local enthusiast to give you a hand. BTW, theres no such thing as a budget when it comes to old bikes.
    where are you located,?
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    I’m in Wilmington North Carolina. I’ve yet to find any help. I called the one custom shop that does similar bikes. He said he only takes on ground up builds and doesn’t have time to do small jobs for guys like me. It made me not like his Magnus opus custom shop that’s in Wilmington. He offered no assistance. Didn’t even refer me to anyone else. I’m in this by myself and this forum!!!! lol 

    and yes. I’ve spent 300 dollars just today. I’m just trying to be reasonable for my wife’s sake.....
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    21 May 2021 17:29 #848839 by kzed
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    Pull the pan. Try not to flip it over, hopefully the bits are laying in the oil residue on the pan. It’s cheap insurance anyway. You can clean up the pan and oil pump screen. Good piece of mind for the $40 cost of a pan gasket. 

    I pretty sure I got all the bits out! I will not reinstall until I’m 110% sure. Thanks for the help!

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