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31 Jul 2019 16:52 #808509 by 650ed
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Scirocco wrote: Have to ask about the positioning of the oil filter bucket. Some parts diagrams showing the bucket on top other on the bottom of the oil filter.
Which position is right and what is the meaning of the oil filter bucket?


It varies depending on the model. The image below shows the KZ650 setup. On the KZ650 the bucket goes on the bottom, but notice that unlike the one in the other photo the KZ650 bucket is perforated to let the oil easily flow though it. Ed


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31 Jul 2019 17:04 #808510 by ned37
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I've never had a bucket on mine. Including my Z1B purchased new in 1975.

back when i was a dealer, we used to steal parts from the new bikes all the time :P

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31 Jul 2019 17:04 #808511 by Scirocco
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31 Jul 2019 17:43 #808513 by Dr. Gamma
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hardrockminer wrote: I've never had a bucket on mine. Including my Z1B purchased new in 1975.


Don't worry about it. The '73 to '80 900's and 1000's never used them.

Kawasaki started using them on the '81 and up Kz1000's and Kz1100's.

1972 H2 750 Cafe Racer built in 1974.
1976 KH400 Production Road Racer.
1979 Kz1000 MK. II Old AMA/WERA Superbike.
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31 Jul 2019 17:51 #808514 by SWest
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31 Jul 2019 17:57 #808516 by Scirocco
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SWest wrote:
My question is, what's the purpose?


That´s the question nobody can answer.....

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31 Jul 2019 18:09 #808517 by Scirocco
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The only answer i can imagine is that the bucket on top of the oil filter did distribute the hot oil flow to a larger filter area and not pointed into one direction that could be damage or perforate the filter paper.
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31 Jul 2019 22:40 - 31 Jul 2019 23:04 #808537 by old_kaw
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Scirocco wrote: The only answer i can imagine is that the bucket on top of the oil filter did distribute the hot oil flow to a larger filter area and not pointed into one direction that could be damage or perforate the filter paper.


I think we have a winner here! As you can see in this snip from the 81-83 Kz1000/Kz1100 service manual (page 3-27) of the oil pump and filter, the filter is pressurized by the oil pump. If you look closely at the snip, it shows the fence on top of the filter. This would diffuse the oil flow and distribute it evenly around the perimeter of the filter element.

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As can be seen in this pic of the filter opening in the oil pan that the pump output is a hole towards the top of the filter opening. The oil is forced through the filter element, then exits into the oil gallery through the filter bypass valve / bolt assembly.

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And now if you will all turn to page 6-39 for the filter assembly parts breakdown. B)

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Assembled filter. *note that the fence was installed on the bottom of the filter (wrong) when I got the bike, so I had been assembling it wrong for years until I spotted this pic in the service manual one day.*

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01 Aug 2019 15:48 #808570 by TexasKZ
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So, on models that the fence goes on the bottom, is the passage from the oil pump down low?

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01 Aug 2019 16:42 #808572 by 650ed
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Not really low. Here's a KZ650 diagram that shows oil flow through the filter. Ed


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01 Aug 2019 16:52 #808574 by TexasKZ
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Hmmm. I think the 750-4 has a solid fence on the bottom.
Seems to me that the 650 version negates the theory posited above.

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01 Aug 2019 16:52 #808575 by Scirocco
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Looks like the KZ650 oil Input port is located in the middle section of the oil filter housing.

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