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Are any oil filters NOT made in China?
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PartsnMore had some muffler connection gaskets I needed, so I got a spare oil filter from them last fall.
It's an "N" brand oil filter. made in Taiwan. #15-0002. approx. 55 pleats. the box says:
"We have used the filter paper made in Germany for more than ten years."
The last emgo filter I removed from the bike also has 55 pleats, but there is a metal piece over one of the pleats, probably for joining the ends of the pleats where they meet. the N-brand filter doesn't have the metal piece.
For some confusion, there's an emgo 10-20300 on eebbaayy with a sticker that says "Made-in-Thailand 15-0002".
I don't know what could be determined from that info.
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So yup, it will all be China soon.
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They also make a lot of OEM filters.Nessism wrote: Hiflo are made in Thailand. Comes with two O-rings and are cheap.
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Not that I am a fan of most stuff made in China. I have purchased many tools made there and as expected, they fall apart or wear-out in shorter order but that's a tool. Often I buy them specifically because they are cheap and I only need them for one job/task and if it lasts longer, great! If not, no biggie, it served it's purpose.
However, I gotta believe something like a paper element oil filter is not made by hand. Most certainly they're made by robots and industrial machines which is why I am curious. How different can a product made by a Chinese robot be from say, a Thai robot or even an Italian robot?
Or is it the quality of the materials involved? Chinese paper is lower grade than (insert alternative country of origin here) paper?
Like I said; just curious. Call me the devil's advocate :evil:
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Chinese metalurgy has been shoddy in the past. But really it's the lack of testing (or lack of caring about test results) that is the reason those products get on the market.
What if they do no testing to see if their glue stands up to hot oil use over 10 years or whatever? Then you have shreds of filter material throughout the engine. You can blame the faulty glue, but really, its the lack of testing, or lack of caring that is the real systemic problem.
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I know MOST Chinese stuff is junk, but not all of it & NO ,I would NEVER buy any motorcycle part from China,
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Anything I buy from CHINA I expect to fail quickly or not work at all. I would NEVER buy tools from CHINA, least of all bike parts.
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swest wrote: I'm sorry, I've become JADED against CHINESE JUNK. :woohoo:
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I'm with you on this issue Steve.
That statement "(expletive)'ing JUNK made in China again!" is heard often when near me too. :laugh:
It would seem lou is correct in his assertion that it probably all comes down to QA or the lack thereof with many manufacturers. Obviously not all are this way because like pete has experienced with the flashlight, I have bought some things and been pleasantly surprised that they were good or even better than I was expecting. Still, that little sticker on the bottom worries me.
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wrenchmonkey wrote: ..........However, I gotta believe something like a paper element oil filter is not made by hand. Most certainly they're made by robots and industrial machines which is why I am curious. How different can a product made by a Chinese robot be from say, a Thai robot or even an Italian robot? Or is it the quality of the materials involved? Chinese paper is lower grade than (insert alternative country of origin here) paper?
Like I said; just curious. Call me the devil's advocate :evil:
Here's what I have found. The K&N filters made in Thailand (see 1st image below) each have 61 pleats and the ends of the filter media are clamped together tightly with a steel piece. The K&N filters made in China (see 2nd image below) each have 57 pleats and the ends of the filter media are glued together (just hope the glue never fails). Also, while the height of all the Thailand made filters are exactly the same, the height of the Chinese made filters vary by 3/16". I'm sure machines are used to made all the filters, but the Chinese filters contain less filter media and apparently their machines are not all calibrated to consistently produce identical filters. Ed
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