GPZ750/810 racer running....
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GPZ750/810 racer running....
05 Nov 2010 15:03 - 23 Jul 2017 20:08
After doing a lot of talking, here are the first steps in my Vintage racer build.
It's going to compete in the open class in the Italian Vintage championship. It's going to be up against big 1100 Zed's and Sozooks but as we dont have many horsepower tracks in the calendar, hopefully the quicker, more modern handking handling will make a difference.
Let's start with some frame bracing then?
bottom top tubes are now braced to the top one and also felt like adding to side supports to the steering head that was sticking out so much
It's going to compete in the open class in the Italian Vintage championship. It's going to be up against big 1100 Zed's and Sozooks but as we dont have many horsepower tracks in the calendar, hopefully the quicker, more modern handking handling will make a difference.
Let's start with some frame bracing then?
bottom top tubes are now braced to the top one and also felt like adding to side supports to the steering head that was sticking out so much
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Re: GPZ750/810 racer marching on
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Re: GPZ750/810 racer marching on
05 Nov 2010 15:12
planning to use the two bottom holes in the cases (they will bolt to those two new ears) as well as going for rigid mounts instead of the rubber ones
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Re: GPZ750/810 racer marching on
05 Nov 2010 15:15
above the rear cross tube i welded four ears. gonna bolt to them a1/8" ally plate to make that area more rigid, that plate will serve also as the carrier for the total loss ignition battery
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Re: GPZ750/810 racer marching on
05 Nov 2010 15:20
last, never like the idea of the left engine spacer being bent by the chain tension, ite welded to the frame now + a msall bracket transfer loads to the rear cross tube.
all in all, about 1 pound of gusseting added, but have removed about 3 with all the those brackets and spacially THAT side stand bracket!
all in all, about 1 pound of gusseting added, but have removed about 3 with all the those brackets and spacially THAT side stand bracket!
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Re: GPZ750/810 racer marching on
05 Nov 2010 15:27
last, whiel at the welder's, filled up the side chamfers in the combustion chmaber, effectively "bathtubing" the chambers. this will let me to control better the squish areas as well as making them wider. as a bonus, chamber volume is smaller so yiu can get away with a less bumpy piston. head has been surfaced already, have to reprofile the inner side now.
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Re: GPZ750/810 racer marching on
06 Nov 2010 07:13 - 06 Nov 2010 07:20
turboguzzi wrote:
Also a great way to screw up pressure recovery in the cylinder.
I know what you're trying to accomplish but there's a down side to every up side & sometimes the hoped for improvement cancels out other important characteristics. JMO
Not trying to be a dink to you, it's obvious you're not a hack. Just something for an intelligent guy like yourself to consider...
Larry C
last, whiel at the welder's, filled up the side chamfers in the combustion chmaber, effectively "bathtubing" the chambers. this will let me to control better the squish areas as well as making them wider. as a bonus, chamber volume is smaller so yiu can get away with a less bumpy piston. head has been surfaced already, have to reprofile the inner side now.
Also a great way to screw up pressure recovery in the cylinder.

I know what you're trying to accomplish but there's a down side to every up side & sometimes the hoped for improvement cancels out other important characteristics. JMO
Not trying to be a dink to you, it's obvious you're not a hack. Just something for an intelligent guy like yourself to consider...
Larry C
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Re: GPZ750/810 racer marching on
06 Nov 2010 07:35 - 21 May 2011 01:29
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1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
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Re: GPZ750/810 racer marching on
07 Nov 2010 09:00 - 07 Nov 2010 09:08
hi larry
not sure i understand what you mean by pressure recovery. can you explain?
I had pretty good results with a similar operation on my 500/4 racer, built a 0.2" wide, 0.03" thick squish area and was able to run 13:1 CR, 28-30 degs advance without any detonation. see pic
Would be interested to hear your recommendation regarding max CR for a road racing 810. We are allowed to use only pump super premium 98 octane + some additive, so all in all about 100 octane.
injected, not a bad idea, lets see if i find the place to do it.
Sure, if i had the means to scan the CC and then CNC each piston accordingly it could be great, but well above my means now. with this approach all i have to do is turn the pistons on a lathe for a flat external ring and then deck them to the desired squish.
TG
not sure i understand what you mean by pressure recovery. can you explain?
I had pretty good results with a similar operation on my 500/4 racer, built a 0.2" wide, 0.03" thick squish area and was able to run 13:1 CR, 28-30 degs advance without any detonation. see pic
Would be interested to hear your recommendation regarding max CR for a road racing 810. We are allowed to use only pump super premium 98 octane + some additive, so all in all about 100 octane.
injected, not a bad idea, lets see if i find the place to do it.
Sure, if i had the means to scan the CC and then CNC each piston accordingly it could be great, but well above my means now. with this approach all i have to do is turn the pistons on a lathe for a flat external ring and then deck them to the desired squish.
TG
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