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16 Dec 2021 06:05 #859159
by slmjim+Z1BEBE
A biker looks at your engine and chrome.
A Rider looks at your odometer and tags.
1973 ('72 builds) Z1 x2
1974 Z1-A x2
1975 Z1-B x2
1993 CB 750 Nighthawk x2
2009 ST1300A
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Replied by slmjim+Z1BEBE on topic Got Rear-Ended Yesterday
The main thing is you're apparently not seriously injured. Rest, decompress & recover over the holidays.
We're wrapped up emotionally with our bikes as favorite toys for the most part. They also define us in significant ways. Favorite toys become more highly valued to it's enthusiast/owner than an objective viewer (read insurance company) could acknowledge. We predict another bike is in your future & many more miles of satisfying Ridin'.
slmjim & Z1BEBE
We're wrapped up emotionally with our bikes as favorite toys for the most part. They also define us in significant ways. Favorite toys become more highly valued to it's enthusiast/owner than an objective viewer (read insurance company) could acknowledge. We predict another bike is in your future & many more miles of satisfying Ridin'.
slmjim & Z1BEBE
A biker looks at your engine and chrome.
A Rider looks at your odometer and tags.
1973 ('72 builds) Z1 x2
1974 Z1-A x2
1975 Z1-B x2
1993 CB 750 Nighthawk x2
2009 ST1300A
www.kawasaki-z-classik.com
An enthusiast's forum focused exclusively
on all things Z1, Z2 and KZ900.
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16 Dec 2021 06:07 #859160
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Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
Replied by ThatGPzGuy on topic Got Rear-Ended Yesterday
It sucks that you were hit but I'm glad you are not seriously injured. It pays to keep an eye on your mirrors when you are stopped to see what is coming up. I do the same in my LBCs.
Also, when at a light there is no law that says you need to be right up on the car's bumper. I always leave plenty of room to get around the car in front of me if needed.
Good luck with the insurance company. We like to think we will always be made whole but, at the end of the day we have insurance to mitigate risk.
Also, when at a light there is no law that says you need to be right up on the car's bumper. I always leave plenty of room to get around the car in front of me if needed.
Good luck with the insurance company. We like to think we will always be made whole but, at the end of the day we have insurance to mitigate risk.
Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
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16 Dec 2021 07:23 #859162
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1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
Kowledge Speaks, But Wisdom Listens.
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Replied by Mikaw on topic Got Rear-Ended Yesterday
Good advice here. I’ve been rear ended, not like you, but it’s always top of mind now. It’s really easy to just sit and wait for the light to change and not keep a brake light on. Maybe because of my past I’m less trusting the guy behind me will stop. Good luck with the insurance. Hope you get your bike replaced. As 750 R1 said, the other guy took your bike from you. Here to a speedy recovery with minimum pain. Hope to have you back on the road soon.It sucks that you were hit but I'm glad you are not seriously injured. It pays to keep an eye on your mirrors when you are stopped to see what is coming up. I do the same in my LBCs.
Also, when at a light there is no law that says you need to be right up on the car's bumper. I always leave plenty of room to get around the car in front of me if needed.
Good luck with the insurance company. We like to think we will always be made whole but, at the end of the day we have insurance to mitigate risk.
1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
Kowledge Speaks, But Wisdom Listens.
Jimi Hendrix.
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16 Dec 2021 08:10 #859164
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94 KE100
81 CM200t
82 KZ305
85 VF1100c
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Besides what ever medical bills you have from this, Try to get something for your time pain and suffering. How much time have you put int this already and how much more time to come?
There insurance company is getting off cheap and should be more than happy to pay you something for this. Many people would be getting a personal injury attorney and be complaining about neck and back injuries.
There insurance company is getting off cheap and should be more than happy to pay you something for this. Many people would be getting a personal injury attorney and be complaining about neck and back injuries.
94 KE100
81 CM200t
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16 Dec 2021 08:18 #859165
by ronnieV
77 ltd1000 80 ltd1000 78kz1000a ,02 red zrx 12r, 94 cb1000 big one ,03 valkyrie (my couch) 65 olds 442
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It appears your angel's up above were looking out for you.Glad your ok.Bikes can be replaced.
77 ltd1000 80 ltd1000 78kz1000a ,02 red zrx 12r, 94 cb1000 big one ,03 valkyrie (my couch) 65 olds 442
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16 Dec 2021 10:03 - 16 Dec 2021 10:04 #859169
by BohicaBob
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Been there, done that in 3/1984! Only my '78 KZ1000 was more vertical than yours because the rear of my bike was stuck in a big old 1960s Chrysler's radiator! Fortunately, I was able to repair my bike and ... myself because I was sent to the hospital via an ambulance with a seriously broken left collar bone.
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16 Dec 2021 11:21 #859170
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Original owner 78 1000 LTD
Mr Turbo Race Kit, MTC 1075 Turbo pistons by PitStop Performance , Falicon Ultra Lite Super Crank, APE everything. Les Holt @ PDM's Billet Goodies . Frame by Chuck Kurzawa @ Logghe Chassis . Deep sump 5qt oil pan. RIP Bill Hahn
Replied by Street Fighter LTD on topic Got Rear-Ended Yesterday
You are a very lucky man to walk away from that accident .
Here is my 2 cts as a former adjuster 40 plus years ago.
It will pay off for you to do some proactive legwork on the bikes settlement
First , Get your own estimate of repairs. Even if you have to write your own estimate.. Shops may not want to bother with you ..
List all parts to be replaced and labors to install. ( Dont forget to charge for removal as well )
List repair labor itemizing each operation . Add paint work
I hate to tell you , but based on picture vs value the bike is almost for sure a total loss.
They totalled my Harley with less damage Formula to total a vehicle is usually cost of repairs plus salvage value must be less than bikes value...
Next Have at least 3 bikes of like kind and quality to give adjuster proving what your bike is worth.
Adjusters are lazy, Do the leg work so they dont have to and you may get what you want .
Next ,, Dont sign off on not needing any medical releases until you know you are ok and as a bargaining chip to settle bike claim
Good Luck , Merry Christmas
Dave
Here is my 2 cts as a former adjuster 40 plus years ago.
It will pay off for you to do some proactive legwork on the bikes settlement
First , Get your own estimate of repairs. Even if you have to write your own estimate.. Shops may not want to bother with you ..
List all parts to be replaced and labors to install. ( Dont forget to charge for removal as well )
List repair labor itemizing each operation . Add paint work
I hate to tell you , but based on picture vs value the bike is almost for sure a total loss.
They totalled my Harley with less damage Formula to total a vehicle is usually cost of repairs plus salvage value must be less than bikes value...
Next Have at least 3 bikes of like kind and quality to give adjuster proving what your bike is worth.
Adjusters are lazy, Do the leg work so they dont have to and you may get what you want .
Next ,, Dont sign off on not needing any medical releases until you know you are ok and as a bargaining chip to settle bike claim
Good Luck , Merry Christmas
Dave
Original owner 78 1000 LTD
Mr Turbo Race Kit, MTC 1075 Turbo pistons by PitStop Performance , Falicon Ultra Lite Super Crank, APE everything. Les Holt @ PDM's Billet Goodies . Frame by Chuck Kurzawa @ Logghe Chassis . Deep sump 5qt oil pan. RIP Bill Hahn
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18 Dec 2021 09:17 #859264
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A breeze from the west.
‘90 ZR550 Zephyr
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My insurance says the bike is totaled. They’re doing an evaluation, so I’m still waiting to hear back on that. I’ll be pursuing the other insurance to settle at an amount I’m happy with.
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18 Dec 2021 09:28 #859267
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18 Dec 2021 09:43 #859269
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A breeze from the west.
‘90 ZR550 Zephyr
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I hope to!
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19 Dec 2021 06:00 #859292
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78 KZ1000 A2A
Replied by bluej58 on topic Got Rear-Ended Yesterday
That's scary! I always worry about us getting rear ended, we try to stick to the roads less traveled but sometimes it can't be helped, I'm glad you seem to be ok, and hope you are.
The bike can be replaced, hopefully you can find another one and keep this one for parts, the motor and exhaust look great, but I would be worried about the frame, forks and swing arm.
Good luck!
The bike can be replaced, hopefully you can find another one and keep this one for parts, the motor and exhaust look great, but I would be worried about the frame, forks and swing arm.
Good luck!
78 KZ1000 A2A
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19 Dec 2021 08:21 #859300
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My gut tells me you are in for an uphill battle all the way on this one.. First, always ask for the police to respond and make a report. To not want the police called makes it seem less than what it really is. You were on a motorcycle and got stuffed by a vehicle that is at least 4 times heavier than you, maybe more. Documentation and a crash scene diagram should always be completed in these types of events including pictures. Don't discount injuries that appear later on. Never say you are "OK" as you really don't know what may manifest itself injury wise. The human body has a unique way of covering up injuries initially, only to come forth later on. Let your doctor make the determination if you are okay or not.
If you buy the bike back from the insurance company in my state, it will be a salvage vehicle which isn't a good thing many times as the title is marked as a salvage vehicle. This can lead to other issues not easy to deal with. I insured my KZ-1000 for pre-determined value through a more expensive collector vehicle insurance company. Yes the premiums are more, but the value is determined by my negotiated declaration, not for the going average cost of replacement for any old vehicle. Typically replacement value is based on "book value" which isn't much on an older vehicle in most cases. In your case I would be quite surprised if the insurance company pays for repairs. They will just offer you a settlement that they feel is justified. At that point it's up to you to pursue the matter which could end up in court where all bets are off.
Good luck on how you pursue this and the end result, but I would already have a good attorney at hand, not some ambulance chaser.
Rick H.
If you buy the bike back from the insurance company in my state, it will be a salvage vehicle which isn't a good thing many times as the title is marked as a salvage vehicle. This can lead to other issues not easy to deal with. I insured my KZ-1000 for pre-determined value through a more expensive collector vehicle insurance company. Yes the premiums are more, but the value is determined by my negotiated declaration, not for the going average cost of replacement for any old vehicle. Typically replacement value is based on "book value" which isn't much on an older vehicle in most cases. In your case I would be quite surprised if the insurance company pays for repairs. They will just offer you a settlement that they feel is justified. At that point it's up to you to pursue the matter which could end up in court where all bets are off.
Good luck on how you pursue this and the end result, but I would already have a good attorney at hand, not some ambulance chaser.
Rick H.
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