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21 Sep 2020 15:28 #835493
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'81 KZ-750 E2
'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)
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I am wondering whether or not to use the Kawabond 5 sealer on all the gaskets that retain oil - clutch cover, output shaft cover, oil pan, valve cover, etc. My only reservation is if something has to come apart it's a PITA to clean the surfaces and replace the gaskets. I am going to use it on the cylinder block base gasket. I could go crazy and use it everywhere, just not sure if it's really necessary.
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'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)
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21 Sep 2020 16:44 #835496
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1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
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1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
Kowledge Speaks, But Wisdom Listens.
Jimi Hendrix.
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21 Sep 2020 17:18 #835498
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The only places I used sealer are where the factory service manual calls for it. On the head gasket for example in specific locations.
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21 Sep 2020 17:29 - 21 Sep 2020 17:32 #835503
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'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)
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'81 KZ-750 E2
'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)
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21 Sep 2020 18:22 #835504
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Are you going to rebuild the clutch hub with new dampers?
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21 Sep 2020 20:10 #835509
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'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)
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Actually, I haven't addressed the clutch yet. Still wrapped in rags from disassembly. Probably clean and inspect it in the next day or two. I need to reblast the clutch cover and refinish it, too. It's too large of a surface to leave pitted. I was hoping it would look better painted, but I'm not happy with it.
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22 Sep 2020 19:21 - 22 Sep 2020 19:22 #835552
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'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)
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Here is the reason I blasted the new paint off the clutch cover. I really should have addressed this before painting. Foolish to think it would look better painted.
I have never done body work before. Anyone with experience on aluminum have a recommendation? I will not use heat for fear of warping the cover, so solder or lead fill is not an option. I may swing by or call a local shop for advise as well.
I have never done body work before. Anyone with experience on aluminum have a recommendation? I will not use heat for fear of warping the cover, so solder or lead fill is not an option. I may swing by or call a local shop for advise as well.
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22 Sep 2020 20:15 #835553
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23 Sep 2020 09:40 - 23 Sep 2020 14:15 #835568
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'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)
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More stuff on the way. I missed a couple of o-rings, and also ordered piston ring compressors, A.P.E. cylinder head nuts (to go with the new studs), and cylinder head washers. I can't move forward on assembly without the o-rings I overlooked, so trying to get the clutch covered redone, and start cleaning and inspecting the clutch assembly.
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23 Sep 2020 10:22 #835570
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'78 Z1-R in blue , '78 Z1-R in black, '78 Z1-R in pieces
My dad's '74 Z1
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I was looking for a metal filler that I could then powder coat over. I think I was contemplating how to fill big scratches on a caliper body.
I never actually used it, but this product claims to be ok with powder coating, if anyone has a need for that.
www.alvinproducts.com/Product-Line/aT/Vi.../6/Hi-Temp-Lab-metal
I never actually used it, but this product claims to be ok with powder coating, if anyone has a need for that.
www.alvinproducts.com/Product-Line/aT/Vi.../6/Hi-Temp-Lab-metal
'78 Z1-R in blue , '78 Z1-R in black, '78 Z1-R in pieces
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23 Sep 2020 11:43 - 23 Sep 2020 11:56 #835572
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06 Gsf 1200 bandit, 08 Triumph tiger 1010
05 Yam xv1700 , 02 Hon shadow 1100
1975 Z1 (currently working on)
1977 Z1000 ( running and in storage)
1978 Z1000 (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "skinny tank" (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "fat tank (gathering parts)
1979 z1000st (currently working on)
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I have used JB Weld (Original, NOT quick set) with GREAT SUCCESS as filler before powdercoating.
There are a few steps involved however.
The depth/size of the pitting, scratches, or imperfections that need "filling" will determine the procedure.
If just a few shallow pits, I apply the JB weld, let it sit for 24 hours then sand/blend into surrounding area, just as you would Bondo.
Sanding the primer with 500 grit. Small amounts of JB weld do not seem to shrink or outgas enough to matter.
Deep, large areas I will fill with JB Weld, and "Pre-Bake" the part to allow the JB weld to cure/bake/outgas. Large areas tend to shrink a bit so another sand is then necessary.
Sand
Final Colour. I build tattoo machines and use it to fill out gaps.
There are a few steps involved however.
The depth/size of the pitting, scratches, or imperfections that need "filling" will determine the procedure.
If just a few shallow pits, I apply the JB weld, let it sit for 24 hours then sand/blend into surrounding area, just as you would Bondo.
Sanding the primer with 500 grit. Small amounts of JB weld do not seem to shrink or outgas enough to matter.
Deep, large areas I will fill with JB Weld, and "Pre-Bake" the part to allow the JB weld to cure/bake/outgas. Large areas tend to shrink a bit so another sand is then necessary.
Sand
Final Colour. I build tattoo machines and use it to fill out gaps.
06 Gsf 1200 bandit, 08 Triumph tiger 1010
05 Yam xv1700 , 02 Hon shadow 1100
1975 Z1 (currently working on)
1977 Z1000 ( running and in storage)
1978 Z1000 (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "skinny tank" (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "fat tank (gathering parts)
1979 z1000st (currently working on)
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23 Sep 2020 16:15 - 23 Sep 2020 16:16 #835580
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'81 KZ-750 E2
'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)
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'81 KZ-750 E2
'87 Suzuki Savage 650 Street Tracker (lost in the shop fire)
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