1982 KZ1000p project progress

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21 Nov 2014 06:29 - 21 Nov 2014 06:31 #654293 by SWest
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I never liked automatic tensioners. With the Liska rollers and APE tensioner, you can hear the cam chain. It has a distinctive sound. Kawasaki had rubberized rollers to quiet the cam chain sound. They don't stay "rubberized" for long. I like the whirring sound and don't mind adjusting it from time to time as needed. There must have been a weak part in there. Sounds like someone's been in the motor. That's the problem buying used especially MOTORCYCLES. The shifting problem might be in the gear select area behind the counter shaft sprocket. The select arm ,spring etc. Might as well split the cases and inspect everything. I had my crank welded, back cut the tranny dogs and went through the oil pump. The one thing I didn't do was the oil gate to prevent all the oil going to the back of the pan on hard acceleration. I can drop the pan to do this later. I'd look closely at the pistons. They might be OK but if in doubt, you can buy some on eBay or get some 10.25/1 Wiseco's. They're expensive but worth it. The cam differences suggest a oiling issue. My Andrews cams are still good after 20+ years and they don't make them anymore. There is another source I've used. It's theoldkawman on the web. He's sent me what I needed at good prices. Good luck
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21 Nov 2014 09:58 #654312 by blakeem
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Doesn't seem that I could do cams without getting new pistons and higher displacement.

www.pitstopperformance.com/kawasaki-z1-k...82-deg-030-lift-p-25

I'm going to be out of state for Thanksgiving week so I'll open it up after and upgrade based on the wear and damage. By then I will hopefully have my other bike street worthy so I can take my time on the KZ to make it really nice.

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21 Nov 2014 11:13 #654316 by guitargeek
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swest seems to think this is an older model. 1981 - 2005 used a HyVo chain.

1980 KZ750-H1 (slightly altered)
1987 KZ1000-P6 "Ponch"
1979 GS1000 "Dadzuki"
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21 Nov 2014 11:19 #654318 by SWest

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21 Nov 2014 11:49 #654320 by guitargeek
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swest wrote: Your right, then why did it break?

Good question!

1980 KZ750-H1 (slightly altered)
1987 KZ1000-P6 "Ponch"
1979 GS1000 "Dadzuki"

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26 Nov 2014 00:49 #654660 by Fuzzyhead
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Sorry to hear about the timing chain. It's a nice build though. Thanks for sharing.
Do you have a rear tire on the front? If so, how does it handle? It seem s like it would turn in differently.

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03 Dec 2014 20:07 #655289 by blakeem
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They are stock size Bridgestone Battlax tires. The rear is a little wider than the front.

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03 Dec 2014 20:32 #655292 by blakeem
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Progress! I pulled my first engine today. It took 2 hours. It wasn't hard, although I had had an expert near by with all the right tools. I'm liking the new shop, much more space.



So I start stripping it down.





Now the engine is ready to come out.







After some help lifting it out and attaching it to the engine stand it's finished.













Here is everything I took off. I left as many threaded things on the engine and frame as I could so I know where they go.



Now that I have all this space to work on the frame I'm going to start cutting everything off it, rewire it, and mount the rear-sets. First I need to open the engine and figure out what the damage is.

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04 Dec 2014 06:09 #655313 by 531blackbanshee
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well on your way .

keep us posted i wanna watch as you transform it :evil: !

leon

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1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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04 Dec 2014 06:34 #655318 by SWest
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531blackbanshee wrote: well on your way .

keep us posted i wanna watch as you transform it :evil: !

leon


Ditto.
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05 Dec 2014 19:08 - 05 Dec 2014 19:26 #655452 by blakeem
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The valve cover was removed today and it seems that one of the intake valve shims exploded and this may have caused the chain to break. Another possibility is that the chain broke first causing the piston to smash into the valve causing the shim to shatter although this seems unlikely based on my helmet cam video because there were two stages to it dying. This was one of the original shims and not a new one that I sanded down so it may have been brittle. The rest of it fell down into the case so I'll need to pull everything apart to see what damage it did to the bottom end.



You can see where the shim shattered and scraped up the head (right center intake valve in the picture). Another valve shim had way too much clearance (far left intake valve), not sure what happened to that one but it moved way out of spec.





I'm wondering if I should replace the cylinder head and cam shafts. I can tell it was abused in the past and the cam shafts were not perfectly round (although they were still within spec).

Here is the chain and probably the rest of the shim.



I'm going into the shop late Saturday to start pulling the rest apart.
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05 Dec 2014 19:33 #655453 by SWest
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Doesn't look too bad. When you get more pic's, we'd like to see them.
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