1100fighters build thread

i'll see if i can find something better that this.
it is quite a change.
if u look close in this pic u may see where i cut the side cover. just below the frames shock gusset. i had to cut the edge of my side cover to fit the shock. the lower mount is not present in this photo. i was a dumb ass and cut it off. i thought the bike would sit lower if i moved back to the old mounts with the zrx shocks (since they r longer shocks). but in actual fact it did not. since the springs compress easier when layed down , the bike did not sit lower when the mounts were moved. all it did was make the springs toooo stiff. so i had to redo the mounts again.

Thanks for the pic Mark. It looks like the shock mount is real close to where the two tubes come together. I will probably just remove the factory upper shock mount when I redo my top tube. My shocks came on Saturday. So now I just need my seat/tail section to show up so I can start the fab work. My gauge will be here at 10:30 this morning.

here is where the sanctuary guys move them to.





leon

That looks lower than where Mark's is? I might need to make a stand off mount like that one. Thanks for the pic Leon. I want the bike to sit at the current height or lower. I definitely don't want to raise the rear.

mine is about an inch below that.
i'm not sure that u can just copy something like that sanctuary position. Without the shocks in hand and some trial and error , u just don’t know. U need to have the right amount of sag fore the springs, when u r done . so unless u can temporarily mount the shocks and check the sag, u r guessing. If u guess wrong u need to buy new springs, then the valving wont be optimal.
In my case I just copied the zrx geometry so I knew it was going to be right. Of course I didn’t use this logic the first time I did it . :laugh: so I had to redo it.
the ride hight depends on the bikes use. for me, the higher the better. its toooo easy to scrape the motor in the turns, at the track. the 17" wheels and modern forks,take a lot of clearance away. take a look at the stance of my bike. i have it fairly level. i raised the front a bit.

here is a pic fromthe first setup. the forks in the normal position for zx9's . look at the shocks and u can see they r layed down at the bottom, and on stock mounts at the top.

i just found another pic . it shows the new shock position. I guess it actually is close to the sanctuary position. I’m at work so I cant just go look at it.

Thanks Mark for the full photos of your bike. If I can get close to the spot you used or the sanctuary location it should be good. I doubt the sag between your springs or mine could be that different. Or at least not so much that the preload adjustment can't compensate. If I have to cut it back appart after I weld it up I will. Hopefully plan alot, measure 10 times, and weld once. I found a Zrx at a shop to go measure off of today too.

531blackbanshee wrote: here is where the sanctuary guys move them to.

leon

That's what I should have done instead of making a bracket underneath. Nice and clean and way less work.


What machine work was entailed with the triples? I've got the same ones going on my 750, but with ZX10 forks.

Damarble you can see the tripples with the machined bushings installed on the first page in this thread. You basically need to remove the stem from your stock tripples and install it into the new ones. There is a few different ways to do this.
I live about a hour east of Denver with no machine shops close. So I sent both my tripples to Leon instead of looking for a local machinist to do the work. Leon did a excellent job and returned my tripples to me quick so I could get my bike back on the road.

i'm sure there will be little dif between mine and yours. the point i was trying for was that u cant just copy somene elses mounting point without looking at the whole package. one would require a dif sping rate and valving if they changed the geometry, required for the donnor shock too much. if u use a dif arm and shock , the top mounting point may need to be dif.
if u change the axle point(if u use a dif swingarm), or if the lower/upper mounting points change, the amount of leverage aplied to the spring, and the rate of travel(wheel vs shock) will change.
There is a lot more than meets the eye with those springy thingies.
so i always suggests. when steeling shocks from another bike, just copy the donor bikes geometry ,ever posible,

I agree with you Mark. No sense messing with what the Kawasaki intended for the Kyb's. I still haven't got ahold of a Zrx to match the angle. I want to do all the research before I chop her up. I can put the weight on it with the mounts tacked up good to check for sag and ride height. Beond that I'll be welding it all up before I ride, then I'll have to chop it all back up again if it's not right. I have all the parts now I just need some time.

Nice Project.
With the Sanctuary Z have they holesawed the frame/brace and inserted the machined plug and welded both sides? To me that sounds correct.
Love the cafe look you're goin' for.
That one with the SS fairing is ballin'.