KZR's Bikes of the Month for 2024

Wired George Coil mod?

More
02 Feb 2021 11:03 #842847 by Evobobber
Replied by Evobobber on topic Wired George Coil mod?
Brill. Thanks. I've ordered the part.
Just hope the bike starts better now.

Cheers B)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Scirocco
  • Offline
  • Premium Member
  • Never change a running system
More
02 Feb 2021 16:09 #842876 by Scirocco
Replied by Scirocco on topic Wired George Coil mod?
Use the time to clean and restore your ignition wiring, connectors and switches!!!
The following user(s) said Thank You: KZQ

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
02 Feb 2021 16:48 #842879 by Nessism
Replied by Nessism on topic Wired George Coil mod?
Not a fan of coil mod. Clean your connections and the voltage drop will be minimal. No need for a bunch of rogue wires running around on the bike.
The following user(s) said Thank You: KZQ, 650ed, sf4t7, kevski

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • DoctoRot
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • Oh, the usual... I bowl, I drive around...
More
02 Feb 2021 21:46 - 02 Feb 2021 21:48 #842892 by DoctoRot
Replied by DoctoRot on topic Wired George Coil mod?
I think the coil mod has its place. If you have some switches in bad shape it can be impossible to get them into working order because they are just plain worn out. Finding good condition OEM switches can be a nightmare. A relay is a cheap fix. I have done it on many bikes with worn out switches and it always has a noticeable difference on startup.
Last edit: 02 Feb 2021 21:48 by DoctoRot.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
03 Feb 2021 07:51 #842910 by JR
Replied by JR on topic Wired George Coil mod?
I put a relay in years ago . Most of the voltage loss was in the ignition switch which was not possible to clean internally. Since then I changed the fuse box to blade style, replaced the ignition switch (Emgo). Cleaned up the RH switchgear and replaced numerous connectors.

I no longer need the relay but left it hooked up. If I lose the key its simple to hotwire relay for a live ignition and put a scrrwdriver across the starter solenoid to get the bike going. A "get you home" fix.
If the relay ever fails its simple to reconnect wires to original.

1980 kz750E1, Delkevic exhaust

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
03 Feb 2021 08:06 #842911 by Mikaw
Replied by Mikaw on topic Wired George Coil mod?
I’ve done this mod. I was getting low voltage to the coils on my 78 1000 B2. I was concerned about taking the ignition apart and damaging it then your stuck with multiple keys to operate your bike. I know others have successfully repaired the ignition terminal connection so it is possible but just not a good risk for me. The relay mod was a better option.

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
Kowledge Speaks, But Wisdom Listens.
Jimi Hendrix.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • SWest
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
  • 10 22 2014
More
03 Feb 2021 09:44 #842918 by SWest
Replied by SWest on topic Wired George Coil mod?
I've done it too. With the Dyna S and green coils it's a better setup. Counting on the cheesy connectors under the side cover always caused problems evidenced by the overheated white wire to the switch. I have the ignition, lights and volt gauge on relays. There was a one volt drop at the switch. Voltage drops cause heat which causes overheating of the wire that causes more resistance until the connector burns out. I got a good KZ900 wiring loom from one of our members and the voltage drop was still there. The white wire is too small to carry all that load. Modern cars have relays and this is the reason. The bike starts/runs better, the lights don't dim and the connectors stay cool. I'll keep them thank you. :whistle:
Steve

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
03 Feb 2021 12:18 #842925 by TexasKZ
Replied by TexasKZ on topic Wired George Coil mod?
When Wired George first introduced this bypass to KZR, he created a firestorm of controversy. The conversation is much more civilized these days, but no less polarized.

1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough

www.kzrider.com/11-projects/620336-anoth...uild-thread?start=24

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • hardrockminer
  • Offline
  • Sustaining Member
More
03 Feb 2021 12:59 #842928 by hardrockminer
Replied by hardrockminer on topic Wired George Coil mod?
I have the mod on my KZ1000 but I wouldn't put it on my Z1's. One point not mentioned here is that any voltage drop on the primary side leads to a much lower voltage on the secondary side. This results in less spark, which means fuel ignition will not be as good. If you don't do the mod you should regularly check voltage at the coils to ensure it doesn't drop.

I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
04 Feb 2021 09:52 #842966 by Evobobber
Replied by Evobobber on topic Wired George Coil mod?
Waiting for the part to arrive so checked the voltage, 12v at coil BUT when I turned the engine over on the button the volts drop dramatically. This would explain to me the poor starting.
Looking forward to getting the 650 SR out for a few rides.
Thanks guys for your info. B)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
04 Feb 2021 12:00 #842967 by JR
Replied by JR on topic Wired George Coil mod?
Actually that sounds quite normal.

If ignition is points have you checked timing?
Checked and adjusted valves?
Done anything to carbs? Checked float bowl fuel levels?

1980 kz750E1, Delkevic exhaust

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

More
04 Feb 2021 13:21 #842972 by Nerdy
Replied by Nerdy on topic Wired George Coil mod?

TexasKZ wrote: When Wired George first introduced this bypass to KZR, he created a firestorm of controversy. The conversation is much more civilized these days, but no less polarized.



Some are positive, some are negative, and some are neutral. :)

1979 KZ400 Gifted to a couple of nephews
1967 Yamaha YCS1 Bonanza
1980 KZ440B
1981 Yamaha XT250H
1981 KZ440 LTD project bike
1981 GPz550
2013 Yamaha FZ6R

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Powered by Kunena Forum

If you like KZR Please consider making a donation. Thank you.

KZRider is free, but not without cost.

Please consider chipping in a few bucks to help cover the cost of running the KZR servers.