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27 May 2015 13:19 - 27 May 2015 13:27 #674039 by Tyler
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As far as gasket removal, the permatex gasket remover helps to soften it up.

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A green scratch pad, small brass wire brushes work well by hand. If you use a scraper be very careful. I use abrasive impregnated nylon wheels to take of gasket material. MAC tools sells them with different ones for cast Iron, or aluminum. I found some at a hardware store that work just as well for a fraction of the price. The blue ones are good for use on aluminum. I have had good luck with them.

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To flush the engine out I buy the cheap ATF from Wal-Mart , poke a hole in the top and squeeze the bottle to spray around inside the engine cases. I know some people that mix ATF and Diesel as their general purpose "solvent" too. whatever you use its a good idea to get as much of the contamination out of the engine as possible before you button it back up.

If I knew what I was doing all the time life wouldn't be any fun.

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27 May 2015 13:34 #674040 by dom2570
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Tyler wrote: As far as gasket removal, the permatex gasket remover helps to soften it up.

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A green scratch pad, small brass wire brushes work well by hand. If you use a scraper be very careful. I use abrasive impregnated nylon wheels to take of gasket material. MAC tools sells them with different ones for cast Iron, or aluminum. I found some at a hardware store that work just as well for a fraction of the price. The blue ones are good for use on aluminum. I have had good luck with them.

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To flush the engine out I buy the cheap ATF from Wal-Mart , poke a hole in the top and squeeze the bottle to spray around inside the engine cases. I know some people that mix ATF and Diesel as their general purpose "solvent" too. whatever you use its a good idea to get as much of the contamination out of the engine as possible before you button it back up.


Thanks, I will have to pick up some of that stuff on my way to work. When it comes to cleaning it out, my philosophy is that of clean it, clean it again, keep cleaning it till I am pretty sure it is clean, then clean some more. I would hate to damage the engine, because I decided to skip on the clean up.

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28 May 2015 11:28 #674200 by dom2570
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Last night, I finally got the base gasket removed, for the most part. I will go over it again later. I needed to do something other than scrub gaskets off, so I decided it wouldn't hurt to start the first few rounds of flushing out the case. When I get home from work today, I will start on the clutch and alternator gasket, then flush it out some more.

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30 May 2015 15:54 #674540 by dom2570
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I am really worried, I flushed out the engine a few times and found some fairy dust. Today, I removed the oil screen and felt sick.

Is this engine dead?

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30 May 2015 16:25 #674544 by SWest

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30 May 2015 16:41 #674548 by dom2570
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Not magnetic

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30 May 2015 16:46 #674550 by SWest
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OK, have you taken the valve cover off yet? Might be a sloppy cam chain.
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30 May 2015 16:48 #674551 by SWest
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Strike that. Look for areas where the cam chain had been rubbing.
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30 May 2015 17:23 #674552 by missionkz
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I have found little bits of crap like that after pulling cylinder blocks off.... sometimes grime, dirt, road trash and little itsy bitsy rock debris sticks deep in the cooling fin area and the jostling lets them fall down in the case. Later picked up in the oil pump screen.
Although upsetting at the time, I'm not so sure I'd loose much sleep over it now.

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30 May 2015 18:32 #674559 by dom2570
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I looked over everything, I did see anything that would resemble the cam chain rubbing. I'm hoping it is just crap like missionkz suggested.

There was quite a bit of engine sludge when I started flushing out the inside. Maybe it is what 30 years of garbage and more than likely crap routine maintenance looks like.

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30 May 2015 18:49 #674563 by SWest
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Or previous problems the PO had. :unsure: When you put it together, you'll know. How's the rods? Wiggle them and look for slop. They're plain bearings. That might be it. I hope not. :)
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30 May 2015 19:28 #674566 by missionkz
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swest wrote: Or previous problems the PO had. :unsure: ..... :)
Steve

Yikes I didn't think of that.
I would just wash it all out and change the oil again in 350- 500 miles.

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