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02 Oct 2012 13:49 #552014 by Renninger
Replied by Renninger on topic Retro Fighter 2.0 (KZ 1100 -82 goes Z1 clone)
Iam in the same boat lol, except...i have a project kz1000p i want to turn into a cafe or a
fighter, problem is space :p and budged i have done little work to my bike,and very little skill xD

Arnold wrote:

Tusch wrote: Oh, I have no doubt it will look good, watching and waiting patiently. Im a huge fly on the wall in these projects until i can have one of my own.


Why dont you start a project ? Budget, age, skill, space ?
There is a solution for each one of these... :laugh:

Thanx for you support...allways nice to get some feedback.

Turboguzzi...took the cylinder to a specialist today and he said now way.
The damage is to deep, needs a new sleev to make it work.

One more frame pic:

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02 Oct 2012 18:31 #552049 by Arnold
Thanks guys,

Tusch, I understand...then you dont have much time either to work on it.
I felt the same way when I went to the University....would kill for a project and some time to spend on it. What you can do is to make a really detailed build-plan. Then it´s just down to execution !
There is a whole lot to investigate before you get down to it...specially if you want thingt to run smoothly. I´m glad to have you following this thread ;)

Renninger,
Space is no problem. I saw a guy on KZR that built a bike in the attic...and then moved out to a trailer. That is rock hard stuff ! And the work he did was amazing.
Skill is no problem with the internet...there is allways guys like us to help you out. :cheer:
If your uncertain make the build in small steps.


Blackbanshee, make a pick...what do you want to see next ? Exhaust, shaft to chain conversion, swing or front end ? They should all be done eventually so...

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02 Oct 2012 19:38 #552063 by Renninger
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Space is a small problem when living in a small apartment,

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03 Oct 2012 00:52 #552149 by timebomb33
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i built 3 different bikes in a small 1 bedroom apartment in the mid 80's on the 3rd floor the only problem i had was getting it back outside after they were finished(didn't fit in the elevator)

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03 Oct 2012 10:15 #552189 by ramtough_63
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timebomb33 wrote: i built 3 different bikes in a small 1 bedroom apartment in the mid 80's on the 3rd floor the only problem i had was getting it back outside after they were finished(didn't fit in the elevator)


kinda Like building a sailboat in your basement :laugh:

I have considered doing my winter tear down in the living room my girl doesnt mind but I cant bring
myself to do it (back in the day had no out building so my sportster was my christmas tree)

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03 Oct 2012 11:05 #552206 by 531blackbanshee
Replied by 531blackbanshee on topic Retro Fighter 2.0 (KZ 1100 -82 goes Z1 clone)
okay arnold,
which will be the bigger fabrication project exhaust,swing,or front end? :huh:

thats the one i want to see first :laugh: .

i'm going to watch it all anyways :P ,so you can just surprise me :woohoo: !!!!!!!!!!!!!

you are talking about my buddy roynor from bergen norway .

he has a much bigger work area now.
he even has a paint booth, :)




leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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03 Oct 2012 13:01 #552220 by Arnold

531blackbanshee wrote: okay arnold,
which will be the bigger fabrication project exhaust,swing,or front end? :huh:

thats the one i want to see first :laugh:


Ok, a surprise it will be then !
Think you gonna likte it.

So the norwegian guy moved to a larger place...? Good on him...he deserves it big time.
Have to look up this thread again.

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08 Oct 2012 18:05 - 08 Oct 2012 18:19 #553115 by Arnold
Ok guys, next job up is to do the "Shaft to chain conversion".
Check this baby out ! A guy called Bill aka Mustapha dump gave me a detailed description on how to to the job.

This was his words: "Converting the shaftdrive motors to chaindrive is a very simple operation, just swap out the outputshaft for a chaindrive one, and fit the sprocket backplate in place of the bevelbox, and move the gearshift claw mechanism into the second hole and change the spring pin position over to the adjacent threaded hole, job done. Takes a lazy afternoon on the spanners to sort it out."

Engeine before conversion:



Parts needed: (Here from a GPZ 1100 -81)



Split the case:



Remove the gear shift mechanism: (open the claw and pull it out)



Unscrew the spring pin:



Insert the spring pin in the lower hole:



Insert the gear shift mechanism into the lower hole:



Install the new chain drive output shaft:



Install the clutch basket shaft:



Install the back plate:



Install sprocket and clutch cover and Bill´s your uncle :P

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08 Oct 2012 18:19 #553116 by 531blackbanshee
Replied by 531blackbanshee on topic Retro Fighter 2.0 (KZ 1100 -82 goes Z1 clone)
woohoo awesome!!!!!!!!! :woohoo:

about time for someone to do a proper shaft to chain,engine conversion write up.

good job arnold,you have just helped clear the air for many people i bet.

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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08 Oct 2012 18:30 - 08 Oct 2012 18:31 #553118 by Arnold
Ha..ha...told´ya you like it !

Would never pulled it off without help from my new idol Bill *respect*

Gave it a shoot on my own and came up with this: :P

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08 Oct 2012 18:36 - 08 Oct 2012 18:37 #553119 by Arnold
I aslo gave the engine a good clean before I get on with the glas blasting:











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08 Oct 2012 18:38 #553120 by etbike3135
Replied by etbike3135 on topic Retro Fighter 2.0 (KZ 1100 -82 goes Z1 clone)
This was his words: "Converting the shaftdrive motors to chaindrive is a very simple operation, just swap out the outputshaft for a chaindrive one, and fit the sprocket backplate in place of the bevelbox, and move the gearshift claw mechanism into the second hole and change the spring pin position over to the adjacent threaded hole, job done. Takes a lazy afternoon on the spanners to sort it out."

If you dont use the shift drum from a chain drive your going to have a problem. You are going to find your not shifting all the way into gears. Like 4th, it will pop right out while your driving.
I would use everything drum, shift lever and anything elese I could take out of the chain. Been there done that!
The pins behind the end plate on the shift drum are clocked different for a chain motor or shaft. Think about it, you just moved that lever into a spot nearly an inch away. Is it going to travel the same distance at the same starting point as it did in its original spot?

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