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30 Apr 2022 12:31 - 30 Apr 2022 12:32 #866430
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30 Apr 2022 13:23 #866434
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Did that require rebalancing the wheel? I would think so...
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30 Apr 2022 18:01 #866444
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It's an itty bitty magnet and, based on what I've read, has a mass very similar to the aluminum it's replacing. If rebalancing is called for, of course, I'll do that. We'll see...
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30 Apr 2022 18:25 - 30 Apr 2022 22:00 #866445
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I haven't tried to sew anything since I took a required semester of home ec in 7th grade (some 38 years ago, right when the US education system decided it might be a good idea to teach boys how to feed themselves and teach girls which end of a hammer to grab), so I've been a little reluctant to try upholstery. However, I got a killer deal on a big leather hide, and I've got this beauty languishing at the shop:
So I figured it was time. I found this video invaluable:
I raided my kitchen and used parchment paper to make patterns that I stuck to the back of the leather with 3M spray adhesive:
And I used the same adhesive to stick 1/2" fabric backed foam to the back of the seat top sections, then sewed pleats across them:
Then it was just a lot of sewing. It was what I've heard called "type two fun," the kind of fun that's more or less indistinguishable from suffering. Here's where I'm at so far:
I tried stapling it onto the seat pan—no go. I made the pan from fiberglass and epoxy, and the staples wrinkled up without penetrating at all. I think I'll stick it on with 2-part epoxy and a few tiny self-tapping screws.
The seam at the top of the bump stop wound up off centered. I tried to make up for that by piling up a bunch of top stitching, but that just made it look stupider. It occurred to me my neice does computer aided embroidery for a living, so I think I might get a custom Kawasaki patch to stitch on there.
I''ve got a bunch of leather left over and I'm feeling relatively confident, so maybe I'll make my wife a skirt that matches the seat and see if I can talk her into a cheesecake photo session once the machine is finished.
So I figured it was time. I found this video invaluable:
I raided my kitchen and used parchment paper to make patterns that I stuck to the back of the leather with 3M spray adhesive:
And I used the same adhesive to stick 1/2" fabric backed foam to the back of the seat top sections, then sewed pleats across them:
Then it was just a lot of sewing. It was what I've heard called "type two fun," the kind of fun that's more or less indistinguishable from suffering. Here's where I'm at so far:
I tried stapling it onto the seat pan—no go. I made the pan from fiberglass and epoxy, and the staples wrinkled up without penetrating at all. I think I'll stick it on with 2-part epoxy and a few tiny self-tapping screws.
The seam at the top of the bump stop wound up off centered. I tried to make up for that by piling up a bunch of top stitching, but that just made it look stupider. It occurred to me my neice does computer aided embroidery for a living, so I think I might get a custom Kawasaki patch to stitch on there.
I''ve got a bunch of leather left over and I'm feeling relatively confident, so maybe I'll make my wife a skirt that matches the seat and see if I can talk her into a cheesecake photo session once the machine is finished.
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1978 KZ1000 LTD
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30 Apr 2022 20:19 #866449
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Nothing cooler than something you made yourself. Looks very comfy.
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01 May 2022 01:54 #866451
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Nice work Buzz
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01 May 2022 08:54 #866468
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Give credit where it is due...nice job. Making a seat cover is something I would never venture in to. I know my limitations and sewing is definitely one of them. It may not be perfect, but you made it with your own hands!
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01 May 2022 09:31 - 01 May 2022 09:32 #866470
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Thanks for your kind words. It is definitely imperfect enough that I'll be making a new one at some point, but good enough that I will be making it armed with what I learned from this one, Rather than having somebody who knows what they're doing make it.
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01 May 2022 14:30 #866486
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You might be able to steam some of those wrinkles out.
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01 May 2022 15:03 - 01 May 2022 15:06 #866488
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I kept thinking about everything I didn't like about the seat I made (henceforth "the prototype") and realized that all its issues stemmed from me making simple stuff complicated. Stuff I did wrong:
-Made a full pocket for the bump stop. This meant I couldn't pull the material taut.
-Made it out of waaay more pieces than necessary, which meant I had to figure out lots of seams, plus multiplied my chances of screwing up. On the new version, I only used 4 pieces of leather.
-Glued patterns to the backs of all the pieces. This meant I had all that paper to deal with, and also the glue made everything want to wrinkle and pleat. On the new one, the only glue I used (3M 77 spray) was to stick the foam on the back of the seat top.
-Figured out a stitch length that looked cool for the pleats and then stuck with that. This resulted in pretty weak seams. On the new one, I lowered the stitch length after I did the pleats, plus I did double hems.
-Went to lots of trouble to measure out 1/2" hem margins on everything. This time around, I just drew the seat top and bump stop on the foam with Sharpie and cut it out 1/2" outside of that. Somehow it didn't occur to me yesterday that A: the hem margins don't have to be super exact, and B: I know damn well what a half inch looks like. Once I had done that, it was just a matter of sewing a 3" wide strip of leather onto the seat top and another onto the bump stop, leaving 3" X 3" tails on all 4 ends. Sew the resulting 2 pieces together, and Bob's your uncle.
It still ain't perfect, but I won't be embarassed to put this on my bike:
-Made a full pocket for the bump stop. This meant I couldn't pull the material taut.
-Made it out of waaay more pieces than necessary, which meant I had to figure out lots of seams, plus multiplied my chances of screwing up. On the new version, I only used 4 pieces of leather.
-Glued patterns to the backs of all the pieces. This meant I had all that paper to deal with, and also the glue made everything want to wrinkle and pleat. On the new one, the only glue I used (3M 77 spray) was to stick the foam on the back of the seat top.
-Figured out a stitch length that looked cool for the pleats and then stuck with that. This resulted in pretty weak seams. On the new one, I lowered the stitch length after I did the pleats, plus I did double hems.
-Went to lots of trouble to measure out 1/2" hem margins on everything. This time around, I just drew the seat top and bump stop on the foam with Sharpie and cut it out 1/2" outside of that. Somehow it didn't occur to me yesterday that A: the hem margins don't have to be super exact, and B: I know damn well what a half inch looks like. Once I had done that, it was just a matter of sewing a 3" wide strip of leather onto the seat top and another onto the bump stop, leaving 3" X 3" tails on all 4 ends. Sew the resulting 2 pieces together, and Bob's your uncle.
It still ain't perfect, but I won't be embarassed to put this on my bike:
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Nice. That was really quick turn around.
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