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14 Nov 2015 09:42 #698625 by floivanus
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50 or so miles into breaking in my 80 ltd I have two problems, a crack in the tank seam and the one that sucks, at idle with clutch not touched i get a hell of a rattle, pull clutch in all is well no rattle. Pretty sure that points to a clutch basket issue.

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my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
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14 Nov 2015 11:40 #698636 by davido
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Ive had the clutch rattle thing on a couple of bikes (Hondas) and its never been a problem. 'They all do that' is the reply.
Ive heard that balancing the carbs can go aways to calming it down.

www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/594313-csr1000-project-build
CB550 (1978)
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KZ1000CSR (1981)
XT 600E (1999)
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14 Nov 2015 11:49 #698638 by floivanus
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Carbs are fresh, synch and all, stethoscope to clutch cover points to that area. Even pulled the clutch cover and inner hub, can wiggle the basket with my fingers. Definitely loosened up quite a bit.

my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
Andrew

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14 Nov 2015 12:04 #698640 by pete greek1
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Sounds like It's going back to the laundry room, :angry: :angry:
Pete

1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!

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14 Nov 2015 12:36 #698642 by SWest
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Hopefully it's not the rivets on the basket. They can be welded but splitting the cases are involved.
Steve

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14 Nov 2015 13:14 #698645 by floivanus
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Yup, gonna go back in the house.

Good news though, fast, stops like crazy, starts easy, handles well. Got all the electrics working just somehow found a turd of a clutch basket. Tank is getting rinsed out, have an inch long hairline crack that needs brazed. I'm definitely keeping the Z1 bodywork on it.

my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
Andrew

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14 Nov 2015 14:23 - 14 Nov 2015 14:25 #698662 by floivanus
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Nope, first thing I checked. Should have went with my instinct and tracked down a J motor for this bike.

A few years ago wireman/plummen said a good upgrade was a shaft drive clutch hub assembly, I have one in a box somewhere. 6 spring setup, or I'll have to shell out the $200 or so for APE to do it, unless I can figure a repair out

Also need to nab a smaller tail light. Wanted to run an early style fender but don't have the room with the 18" rear and the zx6 swingarm

my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
Andrew
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19 Nov 2015 18:00 #699468 by Stev-o
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Done? Are they ever done?! A radiator shop may be able to braze that tank (unless you can?)

Noticed you have an h2 as well.....

'75 Z1 '74 H1 '74 H2 basket case ..... plus plus plus...

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19 Nov 2015 18:15 #699473 by floivanus
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I brazed it up ten minutes after I drained the gas, that's why I said it was no biggie. Took more time to find the torch and flux than it did to repair the crack

When it's back together and running it will be done, got too many bikes (and a house) to worry about before revisiting this kz again. I've affectionately called this one 'spare parts' cuz save for the frame, swingarm and tank that's all it has been

my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
Andrew

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19 Nov 2015 18:23 - 19 Nov 2015 18:25 #699475 by redhawk4
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I thought mine would be done the other day, but currently the carbs are on my bench for a double check and to change pilot jets and fit different float bowls to eliminate the accelerator pump. I'm telling myself this will be the last time and after that she'll be ready to ride all next year when the weather warms without having to touch a wrench.

Bad luck with your problem, but 'I'd double check nothing has gone out on your carb balance or something like a float is playing up before throwing my hands up in despair. My KZ1000 wasn't running right when I bought it and the clutch rattle was truly awful. I know the old "they all do that sir" but it was much worse than that - rattle on steroids. I set the float heights and got everything running well and after a while realized the noise had miraculously gone away, I got so engrossed in every thing else I'd forgotten all about it, until I thought about it one day and then thought "what clutch rattle". I checked the carb synchronization and it was fine as it came, but with the wrong jets and one float level too high so it ran a bit rough at low rpm, it sounded horrendous, I quite expected attention would be needed there, in fact that was one of the reasons I beat the PO up so much on the sales price.

1978 KZ1000A2 Wiseco 1075 kit
1977 KZ650B1
1973 Triumph Tiger TR7V
1968 BSA Victor Special 441
2015 Triumph Thunderbird LT
1980 Suzuki SP400

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