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03 Feb 2009 16:01 - 03 Feb 2009 16:03 #261998 by racer54
Replied by racer54 on topic the 74 z1 turbo project again
The LTD fender off a 81 or newer bike is wider then the ones off an 80 and older LTD. Something to check into! I tried to find a decent 18" rear tire for my turbo and the pickings are SLIM! If you can, I would go for the 17" rim. I'm thinking of doing that myself just so I can have a much better selection of tires. I believe a 5.5" rim is the widest you can find but you can still mount up to a 190 tire on them although a 180 is best and a 170 would flatten out to give a better footprint for all the megadoses of ponies you plan on hitching to that bike of yours. I also think the forks off a J model bike is a little wider also, so maybe the whole front end could be used?

1980 LTD (changed over the years), 1979 LTD (being rebuilt), 1977 KZ turbo and various KZ's in various states of build. KLX110
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03 Feb 2009 16:59 #262006 by 79MKII
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It would probably be easier to go with a 17 - 18 combo, but if you decide to go 18 rear and 19 front, they do make a 180 and a 120 in those sizes, and they are for the V-rod. Here's the link just in case. These are really expensive too, probably because they are so rare.

Tires

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Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250

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03 Feb 2009 18:15 #262024 by PLUMMEN
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kano wrote:

tachrev wrote:

PLUMMEN wrote:

...everytime you modify one part you have to change 3 other things that go with it!:S :laugh:


Ain't that the truth!


don't go there.
who's idea was it to bolt a busa front end on my bike lol.
oh mine.:blink:

by the way great gusset work dude!
amazing welds!;)

the welding was done by the great brian lewis at extreme cycle in topeka kansas B)

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03 Feb 2009 18:22 #262027 by PLUMMEN
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79MKII wrote:

It would probably be easier to go with a 17 - 18 combo, but if you decide to go 18 rear and 19 front, they do make a 180 and a 120 in those sizes, and they are for the V-rod. Here's the link just in case. These are really expensive too, probably because they are so rare.

Tires

my god i never thought i would see the day i would be saved by harley freaking davidson!:S :woohoo: all praise the harley v-rod,well its tires anyway happy days are here again !B)

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03 Feb 2009 18:38 #262031 by PLUMMEN
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well now for my next question since i used to build bikes with moses and he always swore by bias ply tires,i think he was a bit biased himself !(get it,biasesd?:woohoo: :unsure: )so anyway who makes a decent radial tire these days?i love metzelers biases ply tires and have always hated dunlop aka dont grips since my early z1 days,so who makes a decent reasonbly sticky radial tire these days of the ones on that page in the 120/19 front and 180 rear ?:S

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03 Feb 2009 18:45 - 03 Feb 2009 19:08 #262034 by austin3119
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Try the metzelers ME880's. Sweet tires.

www.metzelermoto.com/web/catalog/moto/mo...s/catalog/customstom

Sizes: www.metzelermoto.com/web/catalog/Product...name=ME_880_Marathon

This is a me 880 140 on a 4.25 rim. They have a 180 in a 18, and a 120 in a 19. The 140 and 4.25 rim combo is a sweet addition for those looking to keep the stock swingarm. You need a 5/8 offset sprocket and the wheel needs to go all the way to the back of the guides.

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03 Feb 2009 21:54 #262070 by PLUMMEN
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cool thats what im thinking about going with just wasnt sure about anybodys experiance with that particular tire B)

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03 Feb 2009 22:13 #262072 by PLUMMEN
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79MKII wrote:

PLUMMEN wrote:

now i need to break down and buy some rims and spokes.id like to run 18" rims on the front and back but all the tires anymore seem to be heading towards the 17" wheels,thats been a major roadblock for me for a long time wheels!:S


I know what you mean - I went 17 on the rear and 18 on the front just so I could get a matching pair of radials in the sizes I wanted.

There is a possibility that the HD V-rod tires might work. I think they might be 18 rear and 19 front, but don't quote me on that. Might be worth looking into though.

If you'd consider a 16" rear, there's a super deal on eBay that was just listed. It's a 5.5 x 16 rim, brand new for $75. I wish I liked the 16's but I just don't...

LinkToRim

Not sure if it will fit a KZ though - do all 40 spoke rims work or can they be drilled differently for different hubs??

i just went back on there to click buy it now on that rim since it was so cheap but somebody beat me to it!:(

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05 Feb 2009 21:26 #262475 by Bad Kaw
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OY! BRILLIANT! ...but you know that... :)

Again, not to point out the obvious, but check with Brian on tires...you might be surprised. ;)

-KR

78 Kawasaki Z1R
81 Kawasaki KZ1000J (mods)
82 Kawasaki ELR Clone (1000 J)
82 Kawasaki KZ750R1/GPz750 ELR-ed
70 Kawasaki KV75
83 Honda CB1100F (few mods)
79 Suzuki GS1000 (rolling frame / project / junk)
84 Suzuki GS1150ES (modified project)
83 Yamaha XJ900R (project / junk)

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06 Feb 2009 07:06 #262516 by saxjonz
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OMG! Most men who have pacemakers in them usually take life at a much slower pace. You impress me. When I grow up I want to live as dangerously as you do.
I absolutely love what you are in to with all of the gusseting and ideas. I see you guys on here making these bikes run like red headed stepchildren with freckles and buck teeth get beat and fast like a raped aped running through the jungle and it makes me feel proud.
Just when do these bikes need major gusseting if you are just going to run them on the street is a question in my mind. I am getting excited about getting my bike done although it will be a street bike. The way that you guys are doing things I may just make one of my bikes in to a strip bike because I love the feel of acceleration so much. lol
I really respect what you do even if others have opinions. Thanks for sharing your project and forget about the rest of the so called "haters". I never knew the meaning of that word until recently. There really are people who can't be happy with their accomplishments in life that they have to belittle others or try and short circuit them from their stride.

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80 LTD B4 1075 kit JE Pistons .410 cam grind, Bassani, 31 keihin CR Specials...
1980 Z1R, 2002 ZRX1200, 2003 ZRX1200

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06 Feb 2009 18:41 - 08 Feb 2009 00:11 #262631 by PLUMMEN
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how do ya think i got the pacemaker?:laugh: i think 200 plus hp at the rear wheel of a bike that has a frame with the same structural integrity of a bunch of old water piping welded together is a good excuse to gusset things,although i was raised by a pack of anal retentive railroad blacksmiths and i do commercial /industrial wiring and plumbing which does tend to make me overbuild things!:laugh:

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07 Feb 2009 23:52 - 08 Feb 2009 00:01 #262844 by PLUMMEN
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uh oh,looks like a turbo sitting in normal area and a nitrous bottle looking for a new home!B)

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