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wheel information needed. 18" mag rear drum? And more was created by scott s
07 Mar 2019 17:51
Hello all. Been away for a while. Lately, I've been daydreaming about fitting a set of the Enkei style mags to a CB550 project I'm working on.
The front is probably the easy one. Maybe a bearing swap to match the axle to the CB forks, a caliper hanger, etc.
But the rear has me thinking...
Honda never made a CB500/550 with rear disc. Was there a KZ550 (or other suitable) rear mag wheel in 18"? If so, what model(s)?
I also considered swapping to rear disc. I've found a GPZ550 rear swing arm and caliper. What size pivot bolt and axle does the KZ/GPz series use? (And while we're at it, can I get the axle size for the front, too?)
Any information, measurements, etc, you can provide would be much appreciated.
The front is probably the easy one. Maybe a bearing swap to match the axle to the CB forks, a caliper hanger, etc.
But the rear has me thinking...
Honda never made a CB500/550 with rear disc. Was there a KZ550 (or other suitable) rear mag wheel in 18"? If so, what model(s)?
I also considered swapping to rear disc. I've found a GPZ550 rear swing arm and caliper. What size pivot bolt and axle does the KZ/GPz series use? (And while we're at it, can I get the axle size for the front, too?)
Any information, measurements, etc, you can provide would be much appreciated.
Replied by Olajoe on topic Excessive shaking of the headlight and instrument panel after tired change.
05 Mar 2019 13:55WarrensKZ wrote:old greek wrote: Just throwing this out there, but i've heard vibrating front ends caused by swing arm bearings starting to go bad...Pete
Bearings all the way round have been changed. It was the wind that day. I have been on the bike since and its fine.
That sounds reasonable. In 50k miles of tire changing I've never experienced the excessive headlight/panel thing yet. Glad to hear that it is up and running.
Replied by WarrensKZ on topic Excessive shaking of the headlight and instrument panel after tired change.
05 Mar 2019 13:22old greek wrote: Just throwing this out there, but i've heard vibrating front ends caused by swing arm bearings starting to go bad...Pete
Bearings all the way round have been changed. It was the wind that day. I have been on the bike since and its fine.
Replied by old greek on topic Excessive shaking of the headlight and instrument panel after tired change.
05 Mar 2019 08:14
Just throwing this out there, but i've heard vibrating front ends caused by swing arm bearings starting to go bad...Pete
Replied by Ojisan rider on topic KZ front fork choice
20 Feb 2019 23:13Daftrusty wrote: Ironically I have the entire front suspension (and in mint condition) from my kz750e you could use, but shipping would cost three times more than it is worth.But I mainly want to dispel your fear of ground clearance issues with using Zephyr forks with a 17" front wheel. The Zephyr 550 or 750 front end literally bolts onto your bike with nothing more than new bearings. ( This only makes sense if you are also using the Zephyr wheel, otherwise it is way too much work to put a 19" kz/gpz wheel on a Zephyr front end. But then you will need to address your rear wheel and swing arm so they match.....) The smaller diameter front wheel will improve handling feel and the Zephyr forks are a larger diameter which which will reduce flex and also improve handling to a small degree.
Lastly, I have zero issues with ground clearance and my exhaust header using the Zephyr suspension and 17" front wheel as can be seen in the attached photo.
Hope this helps.
That's a very clean and nice looking bike! I love earlier Z/KZ series. They are awesome bike! Too bad I can have any here. No, not the money. They just not available here. I do come across them one in a while, but not enough.
Anyway, thanks for the info on Zephyr forks. Yeah, I do have friends in Japan so I'll definitely look into their fork. I had my eyes on their 400 models as they are plentiful and I know it's 39mm but still better than our 36mm. 750 41mm looks nice too but not too many of them are out there (due to Japan's motorcycle licensing system). Now, I need to somehow convince my wife I need a big big box to fit the Zephyr wheels.................(she won't know that the wheels will be in the box).
Replied by Daftrusty on topic KZ front fork choice
20 Feb 2019 10:19Ojisan rider wrote:
Thanks martin_csr. I been looking at those as well, but with that price, specially for both tubes, I can buy a fork set for Zephyr for way cheaper. Right now, I'm debating if I should stick with stock fork which let me have the 18-inch wheel up front or go with more modern fork with 17-incher. I don't mind going to 17-inch. It's just more involve as I probably need to change out back to more modern setting such as Zephyr swingarm to go with the front setup (which I don't mind as well. More money, but at least I have stronger and nice looking arm). I'm also worry about the ground clearance, specially with 4-1.
What to do, what to do....................
Ironically I have the entire front suspension (and in mint condition) from my kz750e you could use, but shipping would cost three times more than it is worth.
But I mainly want to dispel your fear of ground clearance issues with using Zephyr forks with a 17" front wheel. The Zephyr 550 or 750 front end literally bolts onto your bike with nothing more than new bearings. ( This only makes sense if you are also using the Zephyr wheel, otherwise it is way too much work to put a 19" kz/gpz wheel on a Zephyr front end. But then you will need to address your rear wheel and swing arm so they match.....) The smaller diameter front wheel will improve handling feel and the Zephyr forks are a larger diameter which which will reduce flex and also improve handling to a small degree.
Lastly, I have zero issues with ground clearance and my exhaust header using the Zephyr suspension and 17" front wheel as can be seen in the attached photo.
Hope this helps.
Is the wheel still central after moving the swing arm over ?
If it's not you will have to recentralise with new spacers and still take the original larger amount you had off the carrier.
On average it's usually around 8mm but i've had to remove more or less depending on wheel/motor.
I machine my carriers in the lathe but you could just take it to a machine shop and tell them how much you want off and it should be a simple job for them.
I set the carrier backwards in the chuck so I can take a very light cut off the back where it fits the cush to ensure it's parallel with the sprocket mount face then spin it round and machine what's needed off the sprocket mount.
Sometime it's more complicated if it leaves too little material for the sprocket studs to screw into and I've had to sink the carrier bearings and shorten the inner spacer to get the clearance required whilst still retaining a minimum thread depth for the sprocket studs.
I did a Z650 with Suzuki RF600 Teapot running gear a few years ago and it was a simple job with just a few mm off the carrier.
I'm doing ZX12R wheels in my latest Z1R Turbo project and the 6" wheels rear carrier has needed 15mm off , 7/8th front offset ( I've actually extended the gearbox output shaft to take a cheap stock sprocket rather than an expensive offset one ) and the frame notching but the wheel is still true central.
If it's not you will have to recentralise with new spacers and still take the original larger amount you had off the carrier.
On average it's usually around 8mm but i've had to remove more or less depending on wheel/motor.
I machine my carriers in the lathe but you could just take it to a machine shop and tell them how much you want off and it should be a simple job for them.
I set the carrier backwards in the chuck so I can take a very light cut off the back where it fits the cush to ensure it's parallel with the sprocket mount face then spin it round and machine what's needed off the sprocket mount.
Sometime it's more complicated if it leaves too little material for the sprocket studs to screw into and I've had to sink the carrier bearings and shorten the inner spacer to get the clearance required whilst still retaining a minimum thread depth for the sprocket studs.
I did a Z650 with Suzuki RF600 Teapot running gear a few years ago and it was a simple job with just a few mm off the carrier.
I'm doing ZX12R wheels in my latest Z1R Turbo project and the 6" wheels rear carrier has needed 15mm off , 7/8th front offset ( I've actually extended the gearbox output shaft to take a cheap stock sprocket rather than an expensive offset one ) and the frame notching but the wheel is still true central.
Replied by les holt on topic Looking for a swing arm to fit a custom KZ 650B frame (noobie)
10 Feb 2019 10:13
Arm ready for you to paint and install your pivot bearings, $325, comes with axle to fit the wheel, just need to know if drum or disc brakes. I just shipped a rush package to Australia, Was a tick over $80, on a slow ride it would have been less than $15 buck. I can size one up and check on USPS to give you a ball part, just need an address to plug into the calculator.
Now, Zed does have a good suggestion, quite sure it'd be cheaper than the arm and shipping but I'd still be happy to build you one!
Les Holt
Now, Zed does have a good suggestion, quite sure it'd be cheaper than the arm and shipping but I'd still be happy to build you one!
Les Holt
Replied by TokyoElbow on topic Looking for a swing arm to fit a custom KZ 650B frame (noobie)
10 Feb 2019 00:01zed1015 wrote: snip...............You may want to go for something narrower like a 600 bandit rim (150/160 tyre) that should match the SRAD front spoke pattern without all the hassle of stripping the bike and notching the frame..
You will still need an offset front sprocket ( 3/8" or 1/2"} and probably some machine work on the rear carrier to get the chain alignment.
I found this on ebay,
Replied by z1kzonly on topic Looking for a swing arm to fit a custom KZ 650B frame (noobie)
09 Feb 2019 07:28
You should have plenty of resources over in the UK.
Find a custom, fab, cool (TV show style) shop to help you out.
Dime City, Legends, Ace. Even ask The Harley Guys! Business is money.
Go with the GS 1100, Or GSXR your cheapest alternatives. I have a picture with dimensions in inches of a GS 1100 Suzuki swinger here.
Give you the basic idea size.
Find a custom, fab, cool (TV show style) shop to help you out.
Dime City, Legends, Ace. Even ask The Harley Guys! Business is money.
Go with the GS 1100, Or GSXR your cheapest alternatives. I have a picture with dimensions in inches of a GS 1100 Suzuki swinger here.
Give you the basic idea size.
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