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Replied by tk11b40 on topic 1975 KZ 900 , ZRX Swingarm, 89 GSXR front end

29 Jun 2012 02:28
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Very observant !! Yes I believe this to be a polaris harley type thing with two wheels and large mass.

I had fun at the actual Harley dealer, sat on a street Bob. I kept asking the sales guy which bike was which.. you know the Dyna and the willie and the wideglide street Bob 45 sportser XR 1200 and all that stuff. I will say the Street Bob was like sitting in an easy chair, no wonder they are always cruising under the speed limit, why go any faster?

All the cruisers look the same when your ride is a Ducati. HHEEEEeeee hee. :laugh:

2006 Kaw ZZX 600 Swingarm On KZ 900?? was created by z1kzonly

28 Jun 2012 18:28
z1kzonly's Avatar z1kzonly
Hi, I just bought a 2006 zzx 600cc? Rear wheel and swing arm. It is 2 inch longer than a KZ or Z1
Pretty tight fit between the KZ frame and has a 20mm pivot axle.
But Man this looks like a nice conversion swingarm. I have to weld some shock or strut brackets on the top of it and drill out the frame openings to 20mm.
I did not take any pictures yet. But I think this will work nice.
Rim is 5.5" x 17 Nice for a M/T drag slick. I am going to change the drag chassis I have to this rear wheel.
Now I need to find a matching front wheel.
I don't know anything about these new crotch sewing machines.
But I do know that $50 bucks with the brake caliper is a good deal.
I'll post a picture later at 11:00pm east coast.
Any one know or opinions on this swap?
Thanks

Replied by faffi on topic Help with KZ900

28 Jun 2012 08:21
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There are several ways to make a project bike, from very low cost to very high cost. If you want to keep cost low, consider using as much stock parts as possible and modify where needed.

You may be lucky and find wheel rims at a breaker that are wider than you stock ones for cheap - just remember to count the number of spokes! Or you can pay for spankers, complete wheels which will be lighter and cost plenty more.

You can reduce the thickness of your stock front disc by one mm very safely and then proceed to drill lots and lots of tiny holes in it. Will make it lighter, less prone to scoring and also trick looking. Costly alternative is to buy a high-priced disc which will be lighter.

The stock caliper will do and will proved acceptable stopping power together with new pads and a braided hose. A 6-pot will be lighter and offer more power, but will add cost plus you'll need an adapter for the fork and whatever disc you're running - and the disc must be thin.

The stock fork can be made better by drilling out the compression damper holes to 1/4in (6mm) and use from 20W (comfort) to 30W (for high speed charging) fork oil. The level will vary the spring rate; if you upp the level by 10 mm it will dive less under braking, 20 mm even less and so on until it is solid and of no use ;) Otherwise, buy something like an USD fork or whatever you can afford. Will be more rigid, but then you must upgrade your frame plus custom-make a triple tree to fit it to your steering stem.

You can live with the stock swingarm or you can easily fit an alloy one from a 1980-81 Suzuki GSX1100E. It is lighter, stiffer and looks more racy. Neither is very costly. Coverting to a modern mono-shock and big swingarm will again increase loads on chassis and require strengtening plus plenty of machine and weld work to fit.

A pair of locally made Ikon shock absorbers will enhance handling in a cost effective manner. Ohlins are just a little bit better for a lot less money, but do look butch. Or go monoshock as above for even more elaborate results.

Replied by faffi on topic New Member. New Rider. New Bike Owner. Old KZ650

26 Jun 2012 16:25
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Not having seen the bike, this is what I'd likely do:

Determine when it last ran reliably. If carbs hold fuel and it's not been running for the past year, expect to remove and clean carbs. But you could try to run some Seafoam through them first, although I'd strip them.

Remove spark plugs and kick engine over. There should be no mechanical sounds and resistance should be low as there is no compression to overcome. If fluid comes out the plug holes, determine what it is (oil/fuel/water). If it is water, definitely open engine. Chances are it's toast, though.

Do a compression test - less than 7 kg is really bad, but if the engine has sat for a long period piston rings can be mildly stuck. This may rectify itself with some use. Compression may raise as a result. More than 12 kg and you should find out why.

Do not omit checking valve clearances (as I did) - you want the valves to have sufficient clearance.

Check how the spark plugs look. You can find plenty of sites with explanations and pictures to guide you if needed. Smell them if moist. Replace if worn.

Set timing statically after gapping the points to 0.35mm and checking that their surfaces are not burned or pitted. Slight pitting can be sandes smooth, just make sure the points are sitting square against each other. If badly pitted, replace points and condencers.

Cam chain tensioner should be automatic on your '78, so no maintenance should be needed there.

Drain the old oil cold. If engine has sat for years with dirty old oil in it, I would fill it with 2 litres of the cheapest oil you can find plus one litre of ATF (automatic transmission oil) and run it warm with about 2000-3500 rpm. 10 minutes should do. Drain oil and now remove oil filter. Fit a new filter and fill up with 3.5 litres of fresh motorcycle oil.

I'd also fit new tyres AND tubes if they are more than a couple of years old. Check the rear brake linings and drum.

The front brake, if you plant to keep it, should have its caliper checked for free movement (along pins plus piston) and flushed with fresh fluid as a minimum.

Check the fork for leaks and replace the oil with fresh 10W or 15W fork oil.

Check steering stem bearings for freeplay (none) and smooth action with nigh on zero friction.

Check the swingarm for freeplay (should be none) and smooth operation.

Check that all cables and levers etc. are lubed and move smoothly.

Check chain and sprockets for wear and make sure the rear wheel is tracking straight.

There are probably more that should be done, but this should keep you occupied for a couple of hours :lol:

1979 kz750 twin chopper was created by oldkaws4ever

26 Jun 2012 15:49 - 26 Jun 2012 15:49
oldkaws4ever's Avatar oldkaws4ever
I ended buying this bike off of craigslist about halfway threw last sumer, as normal, it had its share of problems, like the rings had snapped from somebody trying to get the engine unstuck, not a huge deal, i just replaced that plug alot. lol. Fast forward to this winter, i was going to pull the engine out and rebuild it, well i did that no problems. Then i got to looking at the frame, i sandblasted it, and painted it, etc. WEll i get a call from my friend who just bought the same bike, and his frame had been de-tabbed and hacked in the back. Well we traded frames, and i cut the whole back off, from the hoop back, extended the swing arm 5 inches, tacked in some down tubes and came up with this.

Replied by Harvey1327 on topic 1975 KZ 900 , ZRX Swingarm, 89 GSXR front end

26 Jun 2012 06:35
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tk11b40 wrote:
The Bike has been in protective custody for a while, I was ready to burn it.

I talked with the shop owner, he is ready to get it on the dyno, and has a baseline jetting scheme.

In a week or two I should have something to report. I also found a set of jets from my old ELR (Lawson replica), I could start with those, but the dyno guy is all set.

Meantime I went to see how the "other side" enjoys the weekends, you know NOT on a racetrack... See photo.

mmmmm funny lookin harley ;)

Replied by tk11b40 on topic 1975 KZ 900 , ZRX Swingarm, 89 GSXR front end

26 Jun 2012 00:59
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The Bike has been in protective custody for a while, I was ready to burn it.

I talked with the shop owner, he is ready to get it on the dyno, and has a baseline jetting scheme.

In a week or two I should have something to report. I also found a set of jets from my old ELR (Lawson replica), I could start with those, but the dyno guy is all set.

Meantime I went to see how the "other side" enjoys the weekends, you know NOT on a racetrack... See photo.

Replied by tk11b40 on topic 1975 KZ 900 , ZRX Swingarm, 89 GSXR front end

26 Jun 2012 00:58
tk11b40's Avatar tk11b40
The Bike has been in protective custody for a while, I was ready to burn it.

I talked with the shop owner, he is ready to get it on the dyno, and has a baseline jetting scheme.

In a week or two I should have something to report. I also found a set of jets from my old ELR (Lawson replica), I could start with those, but the dyno guy is all set.

Meantime I went to see how the "other side" enjoys the weekends, you know NOT on a racetrack... See photo.

Replied by ESOK on topic stretching 77 kz650

25 Jun 2012 22:57
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The GS 110 swing arm, what year would that be? I have a 77 kz as well and my original guy cut it and hardtailed it, without my permission. It does still have the holes for the swingarm and I'm putting one back on. How much longer is the gs 1000 swing arm than the 77 kz original? thanks

Replied by uneasy_rider on topic 81 KZ750H Project

25 Jun 2012 18:59
uneasy_rider's Avatar uneasy_rider
On the shock installation, I actually had access to a same model GSXR1000 to get the measurements. I referenced everything off of the swingarm pivot, since it is the only common tie between the 2. I welded a 1" piece of tube stock 6.5" vertical from the pivot, then welded a 3" x 4" x 3/8" piece of flat stock slighlty elevated of the bar to mount the top shock to,then welded some solid 1/2" bar stock for vertical supports. (I did finish weld it a little better at a later date!)

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