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Replied by Wookie58 on topic Gs1100 swap gsxr wheel

13 May 2023 12:29
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With the bandit 600 wheel what year did you use? And does the sprocket line up well?

also if this other swing arm is wide enough would the gsxr wheel have sprocket alignment issues?
I think the wheel is a 2001 (just look for one with straight spokes rather than angled which is the earlier wheel) the sprocket carrier will require machining and you will need an off set front sprocket. I think this is the best option with the GS Swingarm if you are running "twin shocks" the GSXR swingarm is not symmetrical so brings additional challenges with shock alignment (I am using mono shock with the GSXR swing arm)

Replied by zed1015 on topic Gs1100 swap gsxr wheel

13 May 2023 00:15 - 13 May 2023 03:32
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Once you start swapping wheels you are going to have to align the chain and sprockets.
Usually with more modern wheels an offset front sprocket is often needed and very likely the rear sprocket carrier will need shaving to bring the chain run in line.
As an example when fitting a 5.5 inch ZXR750 rim (180 tyre) to a Z900/1000 ( the widest without frame mods )  the front sprocket needs an offset of 5/8ths and the rear carrier shaving by 8mm.
This is to allow the chain to just clear the inside of the frame and the edge of the tyre.
Obviously for this width of rim a wider swingarm needs to be used.
If using a Suzuki GSXR or Bandit arm these are slimmer at the pivot than the KZ frame so they just need spacers to take up the width and the spindle size differences addressing.
You may also have to modify the rear footrest and exhaust mounts as the wider arm is likely fo foul them. 
If you want some pointers and ideas of what you may be getting into have a read through one of my current build threads over on the ZOWNERSGB forum. -
Double the troublezz. AMA style Racecrafters Z1000 and Moriwaki Z1R Turbo. - Z1OwnersClub GB
 

Replied by chris_heiges on topic Gs1100 swap gsxr wheel

12 May 2023 17:24 - 12 May 2023 17:28
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With the bandit 600 wheel what year did you use? And does the sprocket line up well?

also if this other swing arm is wide enough would the gsxr wheel have sprocket alignment issues?

Replied by chris_heiges on topic Gs1100 swap gsxr wheel

11 May 2023 17:32
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So I’ve got this other swingarm that I’m not sure what it came off of and it has no shock mounts that I can tell. Maybe this one would be a better candidate?

Replied by Wookie58 on topic Gs1100 swap gsxr wheel

11 May 2023 16:47 - 11 May 2023 16:49
Wookie58's Avatar Wookie58
I have done many wheel and swing are swaps and anything can be made to fit anything else.
You may have to change wheel bearings etc to allow the use of a smaller spindle to fit the arm.
A 5.5" rim  with 180 tyre will fit the frame but will probably be too wide for the GS swingarm so you may either have to go for a narrower rim or a wider swingarm.
I don't disagree with you Zed, however unless you have access and the skills to do your own machining (which obviously you do) sometimes simple is best. To use the GSXR wheel in the GS swingarm the wheel etc would need to be adapted to come down 10mm on the axle diameter (not impossible) but if he is determined to run the big wheel then a complete GSXR600k1 back end would make sense, with the exception of shock mounts the swingarm is almost bolt in. The KZ inner races and centre tube fit perfectly inside the GSXR inner races and support tube, all that is needed is a 1mm spacer washer either side. Even the stock GSXR dust seals fit perfectly

 

Replied by zed1015 on topic Gs1100 swap gsxr wheel

11 May 2023 14:20
zed1015's Avatar zed1015
I have done many wheel and swing are swaps and anything can be made to fit anything else.
You may have to change wheel bearings etc to allow the use of a smaller spindle to fit the arm.
A 5.5" rim  with 180 tyre will fit the frame but will probably be too wide for the GS swingarm so you may either have to go for a narrower rim or a wider swingarm.

Replied by Wookie58 on topic Gs1100 swap gsxr wheel

11 May 2023 05:50 - 11 May 2023 05:51
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I think you will have issues using a GSXR wheel. The later GSXR (K model on) has a bigger diameter hollow axle which will be too big for the GS swingarm (also you may run into alignment issues with a 180 tyre) Your options would probably be a GSXR swingarm as I have used or a 600 Bandit wheel with a 160 tyre (which I am also using) which has the smaller diameter axle. Also I am using the 600 Bandit brake and sprocket carrier

 

Gs1100 swap gsxr wheel was created by chris_heiges

10 May 2023 16:07
chris_heiges's Avatar chris_heiges
2000 kz1000p
I have a gs1100 swing arm that came with the bike but it’s not installed, if I wanted to install say a 2008 ish gsxr rear wheel on that swing arm has anyone done that? Would I be able to use the 2008ish brake caliper? Or does anyone know that it would or would not work for sure before I buy the wheel? 

I’m not on the back end yet but whether or not I can install a newer gsxr wheel on the rear will determine some details on the front that I am working on.

Replied by Wookie58 on topic Bike of the Month.

01 May 2023 01:15
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Back to the UK this month for Rob’s (Zed1015) Z900 powered “1 of 1” all business “tarmac terrorist”. This monster has nothing that isn’t strictly needed for the purpose of “hauling ass” including lights (it has a brake light only which is the minimum requirement for a “day time” MOT here in the UK)So from the top, heavily modified 750 Zephyr frame, ZX10R front end (with the fork internals reworked to add 32mm to the length), GSXR swing arm with a Z750 wheel, R1 callipers all round and a Suzuki rear shock. So with the chassis boxed off let’s move on to the motor which started as a Z900 which has been bored to 1015 (no surprise there) welded Z1000A crank, Z1000 MKII transmission, ported Z1 head, fast road cams, custom exhaust and 26mm carbs which Rob has bored to 29.5mm. The engine is solid mounted as it now also fills the role of being a “stressed member” in the minimalist frame. On the topic of minimalist the bike is “kick” start only as the starter and generator have been replaced with a “race” generator and 8ah battery in the tail piece (Rob did experiment with a “self generating” race ignition in place of the generator but unfortunately the “kick start” doesn’t spin the motor fast enough to allow it to start) which ended up being a very expensive piece of R&D !! the bike also runs a high level oil cooler in place of the headlight. Rob has also build a one off clutch actuator to mount on the “outrigger” in place of a sprocket cover.This bike is completely self built with some fantastic engineering work but for me some of the most impressive workmanship is the all alloy bodywork (only the best fabricators can work to a high enough standard to run their sheet-metal work raw)I would recommend taking a look at the full build thread on this link Zed 900 road racer - Updated with fixed links. - Z1OwnersClub GB

 

78' KL250 was created by Kelly E

06 Apr 2023 18:30 - 06 Apr 2023 18:32
Kelly E's Avatar Kelly E
I've been working on a 15k mile 78' KL 250 I picked up for the boy to learn on. My biggest hurdle was swingarm bushings and the rotten exhaust. I've already made swingarm bushings from Delrin and now I'm almost done building an exhaust system. I used the stock headpipe, parts of the number 2 and 3 headpipes from the old 82' CB 900F exhaust and the old right side muffler from the 84' Honda Sabre 700. I still have to make a muffler mounting bracket for it and fix/reinforce the broken off coil mount.Then I can get on with pulling the motor and sandblast the frame, swingarm and related parts. Rick Brett even made me a new set of VIN stickers for it.

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