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Re: Drag head needed
03 Sep 2021 18:02
My 77-KZ 1000 also has a similar set up. 1327cc 10.5:1 Wiseco pistons and Mikuni 33 smoothbores. The head is ported with 37.5 / 31 valves. Cams are Web 435" in and out. The head was a stage 3, ported by the now closed MCU, (Motorcycles Unlimited) out of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, work done by "Big Carl", Carl Ahlfeldt. This set up allowed the bike to be carefully kick-started instead of a cart. I am also still learning about what combo is best. Good luck to you and stay safe.....
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04 Sep 2021 08:10 - 04 Sep 2021 08:34
Same here, everything I have was bought used, low budget.
I was looking for 4 years for some 38 Trons and could not find them (seem to be a very popular size) My motor guy said the 40's would work best on a hot humid day which is no issue in the Summer. I was originally going to build a 1197 motor as it would have been a better match for the head but a low dollar big block came up that already had a 1327 kit in it.
I am kick starting mine with a retard on the timing plate.
Is it a ideal combo - No, but it will get me down the track just the same.
Matching component sizing is easier when your not constrained by what is available on the cheap.
There are guys around here that bracket race with $30K into the motor.
I am almost finished building this bike, I bought it as a roller without a engine. I built the engine on my own.
It is a small tire bike, 7" slick. It has a full custom frame and supposedly weighs 350 LBS fully built.
The PO had timing slips that showed 9.20's with a 1075 motor. I was told the original builder had run as fast as 8.60 with a alcohol injected 1327.
I have a local guy who does all my motor work so he helped source some parts, did a valve job on the head and finish porting it sized for the cams. He also welded and trued the crank for me, not up to Pearson standards but pretty close. I am running hand clutch, undercut 5 speed... Its just a play bike, Test N Tune night type build.
I was looking for 4 years for some 38 Trons and could not find them (seem to be a very popular size) My motor guy said the 40's would work best on a hot humid day which is no issue in the Summer. I was originally going to build a 1197 motor as it would have been a better match for the head but a low dollar big block came up that already had a 1327 kit in it.
I am kick starting mine with a retard on the timing plate.
Is it a ideal combo - No, but it will get me down the track just the same.
Matching component sizing is easier when your not constrained by what is available on the cheap.
There are guys around here that bracket race with $30K into the motor.
I am almost finished building this bike, I bought it as a roller without a engine. I built the engine on my own.
It is a small tire bike, 7" slick. It has a full custom frame and supposedly weighs 350 LBS fully built.
The PO had timing slips that showed 9.20's with a 1075 motor. I was told the original builder had run as fast as 8.60 with a alcohol injected 1327.
I have a local guy who does all my motor work so he helped source some parts, did a valve job on the head and finish porting it sized for the cams. He also welded and trued the crank for me, not up to Pearson standards but pretty close. I am running hand clutch, undercut 5 speed... Its just a play bike, Test N Tune night type build.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: Drag head needed
04 Sep 2021 11:32I tell people that they can make a small fortune drag racing bikes -- you start with a large fortune and then proceed to make it into a small fortune....There are guys around here that bracket race with $30K into the motor.
Presently - 1980 KZ1000B4 LTD w/mild ported head, Megacycle cams, 1015cc Wiseco, Falicon Supercrank, R&D undercut trans
In a former life - KZ-based dragbike - CrMo car tire chassis, 1395cc, Hahn Racecraft turbo system, VP C16, Orient Express 3-spd auto, 7.80's @ 165-170.
In a former life - KZ-based dragbike - CrMo car tire chassis, 1395cc, Hahn Racecraft turbo system, VP C16, Orient Express 3-spd auto, 7.80's @ 165-170.
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Re: Drag head needed
04 Sep 2021 22:21
So anyone have a lead on a head and cams that can get me down the track ???
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Re: Drag head needed
05 Sep 2021 09:19 - 05 Sep 2021 09:21
There is nothing on Ebay right now, just go on there and search "Kawasaki Drag Bike Cylinder Head". A seller called "oinkjohnson" out of Ohio parts out a lot of drag bikes buts its cyclical, sometimes good stuff takes months to appear. I bought my cams off of him but its 95% auction style, there are other sellers but he seems to be the most consistent.
Here are the suggested combinations :
kzzone.com/kits.html
kzzone.com/heads.html
kzzone.com/cams.html
If you have a stock head you might consider building off what you have as obtaining a used one might take a while.
Here are the suggested combinations :
kzzone.com/kits.html
kzzone.com/heads.html
kzzone.com/cams.html
If you have a stock head you might consider building off what you have as obtaining a used one might take a while.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: Drag head needed
05 Sep 2021 10:21
No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationThis doesn’t help much but to maybe structure your budget. I couple recently sold on eBay for $300ish, and they were no gems. Bone stock broken fins. Basically a core to rebuild. Not sure why but I’m seeing heads sold without the cam caps. Not a good buy. Then I see cam cap selling for over $100.
Then there this
Then there this
1976 KZ 900 A4
kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
Kowledge Speaks, But Wisdom Listens.
Jimi Hendrix.
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
Kowledge Speaks, But Wisdom Listens.
Jimi Hendrix.
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Re: Drag head needed
05 Sep 2021 10:49
You might check the KZMarket on FB as well as
www.facebook.com/groups/232442287785614
Jake Cooper has lots of KZ parts and bikes.
Steve
Jake Cooper has lots of KZ parts and bikes.
Steve
Z1b1000 1975 Z1b
kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/598262-kz-...-will-it-live#672882
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/597654-poser?start=240#704229
kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/598262-kz-...-will-it-live#672882
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/597654-poser?start=240#704229
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Re: Drag head needed
05 Sep 2021 11:06
I guess you can still pre-order a new one. (just a thought).......
KZ1000 Reproduction Z1 Cylinder Head, Silver | Kawasaki Motors Corp., U.S.A.
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05 Sep 2021 17:32I think he’s Oink Johnson.Jake Cooper has lots of KZ parts and bikes.
1976 KZ900A4
1976 KZ900A4
1978 KZ1000A2
1983 ZX750 A1 aka GPz 750
1983 ZX750 A1
1973 CL350K4
1984 ZX1100 A2 aka GPz1100
1969 CT90
2006 Burgman 400
1976 KZ900A4
1978 KZ1000A2
1983 ZX750 A1 aka GPz 750
1983 ZX750 A1
1973 CL350K4
1984 ZX1100 A2 aka GPz1100
1969 CT90
2006 Burgman 400
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Re: Drag head needed
05 Sep 2021 20:13
Ya he has one I'm going to get ...just seeing what else is out there and what ppl think my best option is ... I think it's just a bad time of the year a lot more parts will come available when the season is over I bet..
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Re: Drag head needed
05 Sep 2021 20:19 - 05 Sep 2021 20:20
I think the factory remakes are super expensive !
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05 Sep 2021 21:56 - 05 Sep 2021 22:07
You are correct, not a great time right now for used parts.
I started my project with a used KZ street head that already had 37/31 valves and a decent port job.
I bought bigger cams then cleared the head and cover for those cams on my own, had my motor guy sink the seats to make the different cam base circles work and maintain a good valve to valve distance. He then did some more porting that the head was lacking to go drag racing. The head was flycut by me and I assembled it with 520 springs after checking the installed height spring pressure. I also upgraded it with M8 exhaust studs.
Maybe it sounds like a lot of work but it really was not all that bad.
The used head cost me $150, cams cost $200, valve job/porting $150, shim under parts $40, springs $60 = $600
I started my project with a used KZ street head that already had 37/31 valves and a decent port job.
I bought bigger cams then cleared the head and cover for those cams on my own, had my motor guy sink the seats to make the different cam base circles work and maintain a good valve to valve distance. He then did some more porting that the head was lacking to go drag racing. The head was flycut by me and I assembled it with 520 springs after checking the installed height spring pressure. I also upgraded it with M8 exhaust studs.
Maybe it sounds like a lot of work but it really was not all that bad.
The used head cost me $150, cams cost $200, valve job/porting $150, shim under parts $40, springs $60 = $600
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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