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Re: Carbon Fiber Bodywork
07 Sep 2010 09:33
It looks like the distance from the top mounts to the tray is shorter than the kz1000 tail.... is that the case? Will the oz seat fit the z1 tail?
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07 Sep 2010 09:40
not sure what you mean..but i am gonna ship the whole thing ,gromets inner spacers,tray.ect...so you can dbl check any fitment stuff....it will be a long time before i get to the 73 anyway...it even has the exact factory hemelt hook location to record if you wish...it is all there
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Re: Carbon Fiber Bodywork
07 Sep 2010 10:43
Never mind, I think it's an illusion from the pic angle :S
Having the tray is a big help too. I don't have one, so I can make a mold of one. I hope there aren't any stickers on there you want to save!
After really studying the tail, it will be more complex to make than I initially thought when I quoted an estimated cost earlier in the thread. It wouldn't be so bad if I deleted the tool tray, but I want the tool tray, so I'll make the molds to keep it. The extra work (and cost)is in making the parts for the tool tray and the rear mount, then assembling the tail in a secondary bonding proceedure. It's not as bad as the tank will be, but time consuming never the less.
Having the tray is a big help too. I don't have one, so I can make a mold of one. I hope there aren't any stickers on there you want to save!
After really studying the tail, it will be more complex to make than I initially thought when I quoted an estimated cost earlier in the thread. It wouldn't be so bad if I deleted the tool tray, but I want the tool tray, so I'll make the molds to keep it. The extra work (and cost)is in making the parts for the tool tray and the rear mount, then assembling the tail in a secondary bonding proceedure. It's not as bad as the tank will be, but time consuming never the less.
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Re: Carbon Fiber Bodywork
07 Sep 2010 11:34
Adam, that reminds me of a question. How do you plan on concealing the seam in the top of the tank? Are you just going to paint over it, or laminate a strip of carbon over the top of the seam after the tank is assembled and bonded together?
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Re: Carbon Fiber Bodywork
07 Sep 2010 11:41
I was thinking about that too Josh. Is a tank thats just bonded together at a bunch of seams gonna be very strong? In my mind you could make it probably to half the required thickness and then bond it together, and put a bunch of layers on the outside. But then again, I know that just glue airplane halves together, so I geuss its ok.
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Re: Carbon Fiber Bodywork
07 Sep 2010 11:46
That is an excellent question Josh, and one I'll be happy to answer. It seems that I have not made the construction of the tank clear. There is no seam on the top. The tank will be two main pieces, a top and a bottom, bonded along the stock seam location. The tank top mold will be in two pieces to get the part out once cured, but the mold halves are bolted together during lamination to form the single piece top.

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Re: Carbon Fiber Side Cover
07 Sep 2010 12:07 - 07 Sep 2010 12:11
see there porchev i knew old trilag was good for something!:laugh:
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kinda like a porcupine,just gotta get passed that prickly exterior.then there is a cute cuddly lil(big)fella.
i am happy to help out any way i can.
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kinda like a porcupine,just gotta get passed that prickly exterior.then there is a cute cuddly lil(big)fella.
i am happy to help out any way i can.
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07 Sep 2010 12:34
And each spine reflects some obscure pun or purist jab at us hybrid turd punchers :laugh:
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Re: Carbon Fiber Bodywork
07 Sep 2010 13:42
porchev914 wrote:
I'm pickin' up what you're layin' down. Good plan.
That is an excellent question Josh, and one I'll be happy to answer. It seems that I have not made the construction of the tank clear. There is no seam on the top. The tank will be two main pieces, a top and a bottom, bonded along the stock seam location. The tank top mold will be in two pieces to get the part out once cured, but the mold halves are bolted together during lamination to form the single piece top.
I'm pickin' up what you're layin' down. Good plan.
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Re: Carbon Fiber Bodywork
10 Sep 2010 17:01
Thanks to member tiranglelaguna, who let me borrow a spare Z1 tail to mold from.
It's in good shape, and will only require a strip of the current paint, some primer filler and final sanding prep. This is going to be much different than the sidecover molds. When I get to this, I will make a quick mold of the tail, then make a glass reproduction. Then I plan to section the tail and stretch it 2". Then I'll cast a production mold from the fiberglass stretched tail to make a carbon fiber stretched Z1 tail. Thats the plan anyway :whistle:
It's in good shape, and will only require a strip of the current paint, some primer filler and final sanding prep. This is going to be much different than the sidecover molds. When I get to this, I will make a quick mold of the tail, then make a glass reproduction. Then I plan to section the tail and stretch it 2". Then I'll cast a production mold from the fiberglass stretched tail to make a carbon fiber stretched Z1 tail. Thats the plan anyway :whistle:
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Re: Carbon Fiber Bodywork
11 Sep 2010 15:45
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11 Sep 2010 16:47
Why Mark, you look positively young! I see you've got some porncorn and you're ready to rock and roll!
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