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12 Jan 2021 17:52 #841608 by Claude.
530 drive chain?? was created by Claude.
Sorry if this question is bothersome to older members but I'm a newbie...

For those old KZ bikes, OEM drive chain size is (if I'm not mistaken) 630. With modern technology, I'm convinced that a 530 drive chain is way strong enough.
Am I right?

So, the question is to know if a 530 conversion is currently available and if it is commonly installed by members here.
Thanks!

In case it matters, I'm thinking at 1978 Z1-R, 1984 KZ750L4 and 1981 KZ1000J.

2017 Versys 1000
1982 KZ1000J2
1983 KZ1000J3
1982 GPZ1100
1983 KZ750L
1982 KZ1000J2 (another one!)
2017 Yamaha FZ07

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12 Jan 2021 20:28 #841616 by hardrockminer
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Yes, 530 chain is strong enough. Yes, the conversion kit is available. Try Z1 Enterprises. And yes, I think quite a few members here (but not me) use 530 instead of 630.

I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.
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12 Jan 2021 20:50 #841620 by Nessism
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530 all the way.

Go 3 teeth up on the front sprocket and what ever number of teeth on the rear sprocket is necessary to keep the stock gear ratio. There are calculators on the web or as suggested, Z1 should be able to guide you.
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13 Jan 2021 06:01 #841634 by ThatGPzGuy
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The conversion calculations are easy enough in a spreadsheet. Basically, divide 630 gear by 5 multiply by 6. Then you can play with the numbers up and down and get whatever ratio you need.

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1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
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13 Jan 2021 06:04 #841635 by Claude.
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Nessism wrote: 530 all the way.

Go 3 teeth up on the front sprocket and what ever number of teeth on the rear sprocket is necessary to keep the stock gear ratio. There are calculators on the web or as suggested, Z1 should be able to guide you.


Why 3 teeth up? I suppose it is to lower chain wear? Does 3 teeth larger works with any old KZ or it must be evaluated bike by bike?

Just curious but beside remaining OEM, is there any reason to stick with 630 chain/sprockets?

Thanks!

2017 Versys 1000
1982 KZ1000J2
1983 KZ1000J3
1982 GPZ1100
1983 KZ750L
1982 KZ1000J2 (another one!)
2017 Yamaha FZ07

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13 Jan 2021 06:39 #841637 by TexasKZ
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No reason to stay with 630.

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1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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13 Jan 2021 07:00 - 13 Jan 2021 07:02 #841639 by martin_csr
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By Claude: For those old KZ bikes, OEM drive chain size is (if I'm not mistaken) 630. .... In case it matters, I'm thinking at 1978 Z1-R, 1984 KZ750L4 and 1981 KZ1000J.

From the diagrams at Partzilla & Cmsnl.com the three models you're referencing have a 630 chain, but just an FYI some models came stock with a 530.
Last edit: 13 Jan 2021 07:02 by martin_csr.
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13 Jan 2021 07:57 #841644 by Nessism
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Claude. wrote: Why 3 teeth up? I suppose it is to lower chain wear? Does 3 teeth larger works with any old KZ or it must be evaluated bike by bike?

Just curious but beside remaining OEM, is there any reason to stick with 630 chain/sprockets?

Thanks!


A 630 sprocket and a 530 sprocket with +3 teeth will be approximately the same diameter. It's important to use a front sprocket that's at least as large diameter wise as the original or the chain may drag on the swingarm.
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13 Jan 2021 10:56 #841666 by Claude.
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Many thanks for all this useful information!!

2017 Versys 1000
1982 KZ1000J2
1983 KZ1000J3
1982 GPZ1100
1983 KZ750L
1982 KZ1000J2 (another one!)
2017 Yamaha FZ07

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13 Jan 2021 15:19 #841679 by Nessism
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Realize also that you will need a 530 chain with more links than the original 630 chain.

The 6 in 630 stands for 6/8" (or 3/4.) That's the length between pins
As you might imagine, 530 has 5/8" pin spacing.

So (make believe) if your 630 chain had 96 links. 96 x .75 = 72" long chain.
72" / .625 = 115.2 (round up to 116 links for 530)

BTW, the 3 in30 stands for 3/8", which is the chain roller width.
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14 Jan 2021 20:49 #841717 by RonKZ650
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630 is a better chain although heavier I suppose. I don't care to replace my Ford F350 parts with F150. I see no reason to not keep the heavy duty chain. The 630 will last longer. I guess I have about the same miles on each at 200,000 or so. 630 is better for sure. Only good reason to downgrade is when 630 is no longer offered, which could be now for all I know. As long as you can get the 630, keep it.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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15 Jan 2021 07:48 #841726 by Nessism
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RonKZ650 wrote: 630 is a better chain although heavier I suppose. I don't care to replace my Ford F350 parts with F150. I see no reason to not keep the heavy duty chain. The 630 will last longer. I guess I have about the same miles on each at 200,000 or so. 630 is better for sure. Only good reason to downgrade is when 630 is no longer offered, which could be now for all I know. As long as you can get the 630, keep it.


You have it backwards. 530 is the "better" chain.;) They run smoother, quieter, are lighter, cheaper, much better availability, they require less maintenance because the load is shared with more sprocket teeth and more pins for the same length, and other things I'm sure.

The only reason to run 630 is because you already have one in good shape, you are doing a faithful restoration, or you are drag racing and making crazy HP numbers.

630's tend to have higher tensile strength numbers because the side plates are thicker. Chains don't fail in tension though unless you are dumping the clutch while running a slick driven by some blown high $ engine!

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