1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
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1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
28 Nov 2017 20:07
Hi all.
I recently removed my front wheel, which required me to remove the front brake caliper. Curious that I am, I squeezed the brake lever several times while the caliper was off of the disc. Both pads have fallen out and my piston is now stuck all the way out.
I made matters worse by attempting to remove the caliper from the brake hose, and rounded the bolt in the process. No amount of WD40 & plying has made it budge.
I also ended up draining the brake fluid entirely.
I'm pretty stuck - what is the plan of action here?
I recently removed my front wheel, which required me to remove the front brake caliper. Curious that I am, I squeezed the brake lever several times while the caliper was off of the disc. Both pads have fallen out and my piston is now stuck all the way out.
I made matters worse by attempting to remove the caliper from the brake hose, and rounded the bolt in the process. No amount of WD40 & plying has made it budge.
I also ended up draining the brake fluid entirely.
I'm pretty stuck - what is the plan of action here?
1976 KZ400 D3
Ft. Collins, CO
Ft. Collins, CO
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
28 Nov 2017 21:50
Here are 2 links to the schematics of the caliper n front hub. Some of the parts are still available from
www.cmsnl.com
and shipping is quick, 3-4 days.
Caliper: www.cmsnl.com/kawasaki-kz400d3-1976-cana...model_q=1976+kz400d3
Front Hub: www.cmsnl.com/kawasaki-kz400d3-1976-cana...t/52451.html#results
On my 75, the piston was also frozen inside the caliper. We soaked it in the parts cleaner for a few days and had to heat it up afterwards to get it out. Lots of corrosion, but we got it all cleaned up. I hope you get yours fixed up.
Caliper: www.cmsnl.com/kawasaki-kz400d3-1976-cana...model_q=1976+kz400d3
Front Hub: www.cmsnl.com/kawasaki-kz400d3-1976-cana...t/52451.html#results
On my 75, the piston was also frozen inside the caliper. We soaked it in the parts cleaner for a few days and had to heat it up afterwards to get it out. Lots of corrosion, but we got it all cleaned up. I hope you get yours fixed up.
74 kz400 D1
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
76 kz400 D3
76 kz400 D3
77 kz400 A1
78 kz400 B1
80 xl80s
81 kz440 B2
81 GL1100
81 xl80s
81 xr80
96 K1100LT
18 HAWK250
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75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
76 kz400 D3
76 kz400 D3
77 kz400 A1
78 kz400 B1
80 xl80s
81 kz440 B2
81 GL1100
81 xl80s
81 xr80
96 K1100LT
18 HAWK250
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
29 Nov 2017 04:32
Hopefully you didn't mess up the piston seals. Those have been unavailable for years. I would heat the caliper up with a heat gun or hair dryer and try to work the piston back in. Be careful, you do not want to damage those seals (there are two).
Heat is also your friend for the stuck bolt. That and penetrating oil. Soak the threads for a couple of days and use heat to work that bolt out.
Good luck
Heat is also your friend for the stuck bolt. That and penetrating oil. Soak the threads for a couple of days and use heat to work that bolt out.
Good luck
Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
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2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
29 Nov 2017 06:49
GPzGuy, Im wondering what the difference is between the 74-75 caliper and the 76-77 caliper...from the schematics everything looks the same...
74 kz400 D1
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
76 kz400 D3
76 kz400 D3
77 kz400 A1
78 kz400 B1
80 xl80s
81 kz440 B2
81 GL1100
81 xl80s
81 xr80
96 K1100LT
18 HAWK250
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75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
76 kz400 D3
76 kz400 D3
77 kz400 A1
78 kz400 B1
80 xl80s
81 kz440 B2
81 GL1100
81 xl80s
81 xr80
96 K1100LT
18 HAWK250
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
29 Nov 2017 15:43
I think the piston size is different. Are the part numbers the same? Too bad the KZ400.com site went away. This was much discussed on there.
I am in contact with a guy who is having them made. Not cheap but you shouldn't need to replace very often. I should have one in my hand soon for comparison. Fingers crossed.
I am in contact with a guy who is having them made. Not cheap but you shouldn't need to replace very often. I should have one in my hand soon for comparison. Fingers crossed.
Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
30 Nov 2017 05:50
If you like, I could measure the distances between the mounting holes and what not on the 75...seems the 74-75 caliper parts are plenty vs the 76-77. My 77 cadaver has the entire kit still in tact...wonder if you could put the 74-75 caliper on in its place...
74 kz400 D1
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
76 kz400 D3
76 kz400 D3
77 kz400 A1
78 kz400 B1
80 xl80s
81 kz440 B2
81 GL1100
81 xl80s
81 xr80
96 K1100LT
18 HAWK250
Thanks goes out to all folks who share their great knowledge teaching others about classic metric motorcycles.
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
76 kz400 D3
76 kz400 D3
77 kz400 A1
78 kz400 B1
80 xl80s
81 kz440 B2
81 GL1100
81 xl80s
81 xr80
96 K1100LT
18 HAWK250
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
30 Nov 2017 06:41ThatGPzGuy wrote: .......... Too bad the KZ400.com site went away. This was much discussed on there.
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That site didn't go away. The link below goes to it. Ed
www.kz400.com/index.html
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
30 Nov 2017 14:42 - 30 Nov 2017 14:42
Right you are Ed. I meant the KZ400 Forum.
Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
02 Dec 2017 17:14
Hi all.
Here's the update. Bolt is still stuck but I managed to get the piston unstuck and put back into proper position!
New issue:
Should the smaller brake pad be loose, or should it be attached to the caliper in some way?
Here's the update. Bolt is still stuck but I managed to get the piston unstuck and put back into proper position!
New issue:
Should the smaller brake pad be loose, or should it be attached to the caliper in some way?
1976 KZ400 D3
Ft. Collins, CO
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
03 Dec 2017 01:42 - 03 Dec 2017 02:00Jack_Mills wrote: If you like, I could measure the distances between the mounting holes and what not on the 75...seems the 74-75 caliper parts are plenty vs the 76-77. My 77 cadaver has the entire kit still in tact...wonder if you could put the 74-75 caliper on in its place...
The caliper seal part number is the same for the caliper on the 74-79 kZ400. You were able to find a new seal? I did a whole fork/ caliper swap because there were no seals available.
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
03 Dec 2017 06:05
I got the dust seal and the piston seal at
www.cmsnl.com
arrived in 3 business days from Netherlands for my 75kz400. Best thing to do is search their site fully and grab any parts you need all at once (saves on shipping)...
74 kz400 D1
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
76 kz400 D3
76 kz400 D3
77 kz400 A1
78 kz400 B1
80 xl80s
81 kz440 B2
81 GL1100
81 xl80s
81 xr80
96 K1100LT
18 HAWK250
Thanks goes out to all folks who share their great knowledge teaching others about classic metric motorcycles.
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
75 kz400 D2
76 kz400 D3
76 kz400 D3
77 kz400 A1
78 kz400 B1
80 xl80s
81 kz440 B2
81 GL1100
81 xl80s
81 xr80
96 K1100LT
18 HAWK250
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Re: 1976 KZ400 D3 Front Brake Caliper Issues
03 Dec 2017 08:00
If you search under 1976 KZ400D3 the seals are unavailable. Partzilla shows the same thing.
What is the diameter of your caliper piston? Mine is 41.3mm.
Anyhoo, I rec'd my "new" seal from the guy on eBay so I am going to be trying that one today. Unfortunately I need to re-use the wiper seal. I'll report back the results.
What is the diameter of your caliper piston? Mine is 41.3mm.
Anyhoo, I rec'd my "new" seal from the guy on eBay so I am going to be trying that one today. Unfortunately I need to re-use the wiper seal. I'll report back the results.
Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
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