Tire fitment issue
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29 Mar 2016 04:50 - 29 Mar 2016 04:52carwash wrote: They're tubeless tires.
It doesn't matter that they are tubeless tires; they still MUST have tubes in them for them to work on the 1980 KZ550-A1 wheels. A tubeless tire does NOT make the wheel a tubeless type wheel. If your shop did not put new tubes in them (as I pointed out in my first reply) go to another shop because they have no clue as to what they are doing, and they may land you in the hospital. Keep in mind that you will be the one riding the bike, not the guy mounting the tire. Seriously, check to see if they installed new tubes. If not go get your wheel and tire back from them and take it to a competent shop. Ed
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29 Mar 2016 05:00
Yep, I supplied them with new tubes. They got the rear tire to set, no problem. Looking deeper into this, the rims aren't stamped "tubeless", so i assume they are tube-only set up. However, the tires I got are tubeless tires which I was going to run with tubes. I was under the impression this was ok to do. Maybe it's not and is what's causing the problem. I'll be speaking with the retailer today, where I got the tires. I may end up pulling both off and going with another, tube-type model.
650ed wrote:carwash wrote: They're tubeless tires.
It doesn't matter that they are tubeless tires; they still MUST have tubes in them for them to work on the 1980 KZ550-A1 wheels. A tubeless tire does NOT make the wheel a tubeless type wheel. If your shop did not put new tubes in them (as I pointed out in my first reply) go to another shop because they have no clue as to what they are doing, and they may land you in the hospital. Keep in mind that you will be the one riding the bike, not the guy mounting the tire. Seriously, check to see if they installed new tubes. If not go get your wheel and tire back from them and take it to a competent shop. Ed
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29 Mar 2016 05:08
Running tubeless tire with tubes in them is perfectly normal. It will not cause any problem. Ed
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29 Mar 2016 07:18
I would like to see the markings on the tire and rim.
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29 Mar 2016 09:36
what markings?
swest wrote: I would like to see the markings on the tire and rim.
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29 Mar 2016 11:54
The ones on the sidewall of the tire and the markings on the rim.
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29 Mar 2016 14:01 - 29 Mar 2016 14:32
Does it say TUBELESS on the spoke or rim ?
Look for something like this below
This is my rear wheel. Front is the same.
I dont have any experience with a 550 but others have posted that tubes should be used on the 550 unless a PO has made changes
EDIT Just noticed carwash's post from 9 hours ago so disregard mine above
Look for something like this below
This is my rear wheel. Front is the same.
I dont have any experience with a 550 but others have posted that tubes should be used on the 550 unless a PO has made changes
EDIT Just noticed carwash's post from 9 hours ago so disregard mine above
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29 Mar 2016 14:24
If the powder coat guy really laid on the coating thickness that could be keeping the bead from seating. Powder coat is quite thick.
What kind of lubrication was used on the tire and wheel? Real tire lube or soap?
What kind of lubrication was used on the tire and wheel? Real tire lube or soap?
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Re: Tire fitment issue
29 Mar 2016 18:49
The rims are not stamped tubeless, I knew this going in, I was under the impression it was ok to use tubes with tubeless tires on non-tubeless rims. i believe most of the time it is. After talking with customer support today, it seems the bead on these tires is simply not compatible with my rims. I ordered a new set of Bridgestones tube-type tires. Hopefully get them mounted by the end of the week.
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29 Mar 2016 18:55
What brand tires had the problem? Maybe we should avoid them. Ed
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Re: Tire fitment issue
29 Mar 2016 18:59
Avons. I've seen them used on choppers, Hd's and the like. Never liked them.
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29 Mar 2016 18:59650ed wrote: What brand tires had the problem? Maybe we should avoid them. Ed
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