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04 Jul 2016 11:30GPzMOD750 wrote: I've checked every wire In every way possible. And have it hooked as shown. I would suspect the stator if I wasn't getting a charge with the old R/R. I do have another stator but the bench test for the SH775 failed.
Like I said. I sent the seller a message, They have about a half dozen more listed so let's see if they send me another.
What voltage do you get with the old R/R at 5000 rpm?
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04 Jul 2016 11:43
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What voltage do you get with the old R/R at 5000 rpm?[/quote]
Anything above idle I'm getting approx 12.5v +/- .20v regardless of rpm. I know I should be getting at least 13.5v but at least it's a charge. This is after having to use my battery charger to start the bike since the battery is getting below 10v since the SH775 isn't working AND I'm chasing headlight circuit gremlins some more.
What voltage do you get with the old R/R at 5000 rpm?[/quote]
Anything above idle I'm getting approx 12.5v +/- .20v regardless of rpm. I know I should be getting at least 13.5v but at least it's a charge. This is after having to use my battery charger to start the bike since the battery is getting below 10v since the SH775 isn't working AND I'm chasing headlight circuit gremlins some more.
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04 Jul 2016 11:43Anything above idle I'm getting approx 12.5v +/- .20v regardless of rpm. I know I should be getting at least 13.5v but at least it's a charge. This is after having to use my battery charger to start the bike since the battery is getting below 10v since the SH775 isn't working AND I'm chasing headlight circuit gremlins some more.Nessism wrote: What voltage do you get with the old R/R at 5000 rpm?
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04 Jul 2016 11:57
I wouldn't be so quick to blame the SH775. Your stator is dead. Get a new one and then go from there. Bet you the SH775 will work fine with a good stator plugged in.
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04 Jul 2016 12:49I swapped stators. Yeah, that was fun.Nessism wrote: I wouldn't be so quick to blame the SH775. Your stator is dead. Get a new one and then go from there. Bet you the SH775 will work fine with a good stator plugged in.
Same results, so I either have 2 bad stators or 2 bad R/Rs or both.
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04 Jul 2016 12:54
On my bike there are three yellow wires. You test between each and should have 50+/- VAC. If there's less that 49 VAC the stator is weak or bad.
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04 Jul 2016 13:05 - 04 Jul 2016 13:56swest wrote: On my bike there are three yellow wires. You test between each and should have 50+/- VAC. If there's less that 49 VAC the stator is weak or bad.
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Just to clarify.
While the bile is running? 50 volts, AC between any 2 of the 3 wires tested in every combination?
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04 Jul 2016 13:08
Yes.
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04 Jul 2016 13:18
Got it! After my best break, maybe.
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04 Jul 2016 13:45
To do that no load test you need to disconnect the stator entirely and rev the engine to 5000 rpm or more. Set your meter to AC voltage too. Oh, and make that 75 volts AC, not 50. And even if you get good voltage that doesn't mean your stator is at full power. I've seen 75 volts before and the best the charging system would do is 13.7 volts.
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04 Jul 2016 13:50
<ime will do that with all lights on, then goes up to 14.5 when the battery is fully charged.
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04 Jul 2016 14:08
OK, I did a test got ~55v AC. One thing I realized is that I had the stator wires to the regulator hooked up wrong.
The factory connector is a six pin connector 2x3. There are only 5 wires to hook up. The bottom 3 are the stator the one top outside is the ground the other top outside is the hot. Guess how I had it hooked up? I had the stator wires hooked up to the top 3, stupid mistake. So if this R/R is toast it's probably my fault.
I hooked it up correctly and the voltage slowly rose from where it started at about 11v. I disconnected the stator wires, did the AC test, After that I checked my voltage at the battery and it was just over 9V. I hooked up the stator wires again and at Idle it slowly rose starting at about 11.5v I reved to 5k and it got to about 12.5 volt and held steady until I shut things down.
I put the battery charger on it and I'll check it again later.
The factory connector is a six pin connector 2x3. There are only 5 wires to hook up. The bottom 3 are the stator the one top outside is the ground the other top outside is the hot. Guess how I had it hooked up? I had the stator wires hooked up to the top 3, stupid mistake. So if this R/R is toast it's probably my fault.
I hooked it up correctly and the voltage slowly rose from where it started at about 11v. I disconnected the stator wires, did the AC test, After that I checked my voltage at the battery and it was just over 9V. I hooked up the stator wires again and at Idle it slowly rose starting at about 11.5v I reved to 5k and it got to about 12.5 volt and held steady until I shut things down.
I put the battery charger on it and I'll check it again later.
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