1978 KZ1000 Starter clutch question

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21 Sep 2015 16:26 #691258 by Skiprrdog
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Yeah, I am not too worried about the ball bearing (yet) I am going to head out tomorrow and see if I can rent/buy a puller that will work.


swest wrote: Take a rod and tap on the ball bearing until it gets loose. What you need is a puller that screws on. I used lock tight on a old rotor I thought was wobbling. I had to heat it up until the pressure of the bolt popped it off.
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1975 H2 Triple
1984 Yamaha XJ900 Seca
1984 Harley Davidson FXRDG

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21 Sep 2015 16:43 #691259 by SWest
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I'm not saying beat on it. Just a light tapping to dislodge it.
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21 Sep 2015 18:15 #691269 by Skiprrdog
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Thanks for talking me down there... cause right about now i feel like beating on it :evil:

I saw this gear puller on O'Reillys site... only $6.00... going to look at it tomorrow

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and see if it will work.

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1984 Harley Davidson FXRDG

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21 Sep 2015 18:22 #691272 by SWest
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21 Sep 2015 20:27 #691279 by missionkz
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Skiprrdog wrote: Thanks for talking me down there... cause right about now i feel like beating on it :evil:

I saw this gear puller on O'Reillys site... only $6.00... going to look at it tomorrow

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and see if it will work.

I think it is junk! I bet those arms will bend and pop right off.

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21 Sep 2015 22:54 #691281 by floivanus
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Just use the right tool, before you mess something up (like getting a ball bearing jammed in there) the tool with the puller arms will mess up the outside of the rotor, and the ball bearing has a chance to gall up the crank threads or just get stuck in there. I have done a few stubborn ones with an impact gun and a hammer, tighten bolt down a bit, then smack with hammer, tighten again smack again. Bit excessive tho.

my bikes; 80kz1000(project), 77 gl1000, 74 h2 (project)
Past; 78 kz1000, 83 kz550
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22 Sep 2015 02:24 #691291 by KZB2 650
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Good luck with all this ..... maybe my starter clutch repair wasn't so bad after all ....... and I just gotta say I love the bike still my favorite year and model. ;)

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.

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22 Sep 2015 07:07 #691340 by Skiprrdog
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Yeah, after sleeping on it you guys are probably right...I went ahead and ordered the Motion Pro 16mm bolt to take it out with. Now the hard part will be staying out of the garage and away from the motorcycle until the tool gets here B)

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22 Sep 2015 17:50 #691456 by Skiprrdog
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Funny what you can find in your own tool box sometimes. I found this puller, Looked at the black bolt in the middle and thought gee, that looks familiar. It is 16mm, and must be the same pitch as inside the rotor, as it will thread in. It is hardened, I think all I would need to do is grind down the little nib on the end. I already ordered the Motion Pro one, but dang, I want to *work* on that bike :laugh:


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22 Sep 2015 18:38 #691461 by SWest
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Why grind off that nib on the end? It won't bother anything.
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29 Sep 2015 10:24 #692510 by Skiprrdog
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Well, I got that rotor off yesterday! The three allen bolts were not loose, so that was not the problem. All three of the springs were different lengths, and one of the three rollers had some *mild* looking wear on it. Not sure what the cutoff for good/no-good is, so I ordered a rebuild kit for it. The big gear on the back of the assembly did not look too bad, but then I found a guy on fleaBay that had one, new old stock, still in the Kawasaki packaging for $65.00 with free shipping, soooo, not wanting to do this again any time soon (if ever) I got one.

Question; the rubber damper, on mine it is pretty hard, more like plastic, so I assume I should replace it also. How do I know which of the three to get?

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29 Sep 2015 10:55 #692514 by Skiprrdog
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationIn case anyone needs one of these gears, it looks like the seller has one or more left...



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