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23 Dec 2012 23:23 #564409 by Motor Head
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Did you check to be Sure that each fuse is good by measuring the voltage going both in and out?
On your wiring diagram check for the connection of the single blue/ white connector, and that voltage is there. This is for your head light. Should be in the head light bucket.


The No Start, with plugs getting spark, and plugs wet with fuel sounds like it could well be flooded. Try drying out your plugs, a Propane torch on the plugs when out on the bench/ floor. Heat them up till dry. Put them back in and don't use the choke, crack the throttle about 1/3rd or so and crank/ kick it a few times. Battery is good right?

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
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24 Dec 2012 12:46 #564512 by BIGKEVIN
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Could the stator gone by when the wire was shorting out and blowing the main fuse ? How do you test it ?

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24 Dec 2012 12:54 #564514 by Motor Head
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Doubt it. If you have a good battery it will start and run without the stator, for awhile anyway. Before the battery wears down. The easiest test for the charging system requires the bike to run. So I would concentrate on getting it going.
Are you kicking it or using the starter motor?
You said on your Petcock, one line has always been plugged and the other feeds the carbs. The smaller if plugged, which would be vacuum to turn it on/ off, would need it turned to "Prime" in order to get fuel to the carbs. Have you loosened a carb bowl drain screw to verify fuel flow? You have good spark right?
You need Fuel, Spark, and compression and it should fire. Of course you can have to much fuel which will flood the motor, or to little which won't let it fire, if to lean. Vacuum leaks at the intake manifolds nipples for balancing is a common source. Your plugged petcock line would have gone down to one of these nipples, is it plugged at the manifold as well?

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
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24 Dec 2012 13:10 #564520 by BIGKEVIN
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Wasnt sure if it would run if the stator was bad. There is fuel getting to the carbs. I took the fuel line off of the carb and open the petcock and fuel was flowing through the fuel filter and lines. I will take the bowls off of the carbs and check to ensure fuel is getting to the bowls. I do have spark on all 4 plugs. The bike has Mikuni 29 MM carbs and there are 2 vent or overflow nipples with a hose connected to each one.

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24 Dec 2012 14:35 #564533 by Motor Head
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Vm29's, have you used the "Clear Tube Test" to verify your fuel levels in the float bowls after removing the bowl to reset float when it was having the original problem?

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
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24 Dec 2012 15:01 #564537 by Kidkawie
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Sounds like you disturbed one of the grounds or connections. Remove the tank and healight, unplug every bulk connector and spray with WD, then re connect them. Do the same thing to the ones under the side panel. You want big blue spark, not faint orange.

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24 Dec 2012 16:07 #564541 by BIGKEVIN
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Motor Head, when I had the carbs off the last time, I did the clear tube on the #1 carb to get the fuel from leaking from the carb. I will check them all again on Wednesday.

Kidkawie, that is what I suspect also, but have not been able to find a wire disconnected yet. I will be checking the wiring on Wednesday also.

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25 Dec 2012 20:40 #564689 by BIGKEVIN
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I got my head light issue resolved today. I checked the voltage at the fuses and I was seeing voltage going into one of the fuses on the blue wire, but not any on the other side of the fuse. Pulled the fues and it did not look like it was blown. Tested the fuse with a multimeter and it checked good. Put another fuse in anyway and the light come on when the key was turned on. I will be checking the carbs tomorrow to see if there is fuel in the bowls and also check the fuel level in the bowl using the clear tube.

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25 Dec 2012 21:53 #564703 by Patton
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If not already done, would assure fresh gasoline in tank, not stale or contaminated with water, etc.

The wetness observed on spark plugs might be partially water. :pinch:

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25 Dec 2012 22:54 #564711 by BIGKEVIN
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My previous post should have said that I got the head ligth working. The gas is fresh. I will be checking the bowls and float level tomorrow.

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26 Dec 2012 12:25 #564751 by Kidkawie
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BIGKEVIN wrote: Kidkawie, that is what I suspect also, but have not been able to find a wire disconnected yet. I will be checking the wiring on Wednesday also.


I'm not saying one is disconnected, I'm saying there's a bad connection within the bulk connector(s). Just pull them apart, spray WD in both ends and plug back together. Sounds like the fuse was a bad connection too.

Also, the bikes don't run with dead batteries.

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26 Dec 2012 13:55 #564756 by BIGKEVIN
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I will be checking/spraying to connections today with some contact cleaner along with checking the bowls for fuel. I just got the battery this summer and it stays on a trickle charger, so it should be good also.

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