H**** starter?

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07 Sep 2011 10:29 #474837 by riverroad
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Someone recently told me a starter from a DOHC cam Honda motor would bolt right into my KZ1000.
True? Any mods have to be done? Any particular model and year fits best?
Been having to use my kick starter for a while now. Could just be my battery though. Haven't had it tested yet, and it's the same bat that was in it when I bought it five years ago.
But I figure when it does come down to needing a new starter, I'd like to know my options.

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07 Sep 2011 15:15 #474896 by Kidkawie
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what's the point? just to have a honda starter?

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07 Sep 2011 15:29 - 07 Sep 2011 15:29 #474900 by Patton
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The Honda starter is reportedly a little more robust, and fits certain Kawasaki models, with minimal modification needed (perhaps to provide slight additional clearance needed for the wiring lug??)

I recall there being at least one earlier thread about this subject here on KZr.

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07 Sep 2011 15:41 #474903 by testarossa
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I believe that mark1122 has the CB starter on his bike due to the additional torque of the Honda starter. His stock KZ starter wouldn't reliably turn his 1200cc motor over.

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07 Sep 2011 15:41 #474904 by Patton

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07 Sep 2011 16:38 #474912 by 531blackbanshee
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the kawi starter is 7 amps/milliwatts/????

the honda starter is 9 amps/milliwatts/???????

what i can tell you from my experience (with a 1981 cb1100 starter on my 1015cc)is that the bike starts quicker and the engine turns over a LOT faster.
i had to clearance my countershaft cover to clear the power lug on the honda starter.some guys say you can take the starter apart and rotate the power lug out of the way.

i will only use the honda starters on my bikes as long as they are available.

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07 Sep 2011 20:40 #474961 by hocbj23
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Doesnt Kawi also make a "heavy duty" starter (STANDARD I think on the ELR bikes ) that also puts out 9 amps?bj

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08 Sep 2011 11:52 #475107 by 531blackbanshee
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hocbj23 wrote: Doesnt Kawi also make a "heavy duty" starter (STANDARD I think on the ELR bikes ) that also puts out 9 amps?bj


sounds somewhat familiar ;) .

leon

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08 Sep 2011 12:08 #475116 by Old Man Rock
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For a performance (high compression pistons/cams/head work) built engine, I get this but for a stock or mild built engine I would think the Kawi starter is more then adequate....

Hell in my mild build, one quick press of the starter and she pures to life...

Sure a starter can go bad especially after 30 years but I'd start looking at other possible solutions in your setup first such as electrical system & connections, electrical starter components, starter clutch mechanism... etc...

If any of the above mentioned is crap that extra 2amps will only buy you so much....

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09 Sep 2011 08:22 #475325 by riverroad
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Sorry I didn't get back sooner but I was off yesterday and went riding. Beautiful day for it.
Went ahead and put a new battery in it. Turns out there ain't a damn thing wrong with the starter that's in there. Funny how the battery just kept going ang going all year with enough juice to fire the ignition, but not enough to crank it. Plus it would always read 12.5 volts. Been kick starting it all year. Always started on the first kick.
Now I have to get over the habit of toeing out my kick lever when I swing my leg over.
But when my starter does go, it's nice to know the Honda option.

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09 Sep 2011 08:25 #475327 by wireman
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:)

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09 Sep 2011 12:01 #475377 by Old Man Rock
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Easier solution.. AGM Battery with increased CCA (180-220)... ;)

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

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