73 z1 dyna installed but...

ok we got the 73 z1 up and running with the dyna ing. installed but all the info i have seen around here is dealing with the newer style timing marks thing id call it a rotor i guess. its got a few markes in the 1-4 area and 2-3 area. the old style isnt touched on from what i have seen. I timed it by ear and she still has a spit or sputter but is really close. So i want to know what it should be set at.
at these areas.
no timing advanced?
with timing advanced(motor not running)by holding the advancer full open?
timing advanced with bike running 3500 rpm ish.

when i have it lined up with the 1st mark at idle then rev to 3500 its WAY past the mark at "4" and reading i see 1/4" past the "4" mark id guess an eazy 1/2". Please post pics if you got them.

www.mpsracing.com/instructions/Dynatek/D31-3.pdf lets see if this works

This what you looking for?



Maybe this will, help as well, some of the original Dynatek instructions can be confusing....

kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_docman&...d&gid=449&Itemid=108

OMR

this pic did the trick. but when the timing is full advanced its WAY past that mark. any ideas?

and not sure why a gl1000 install sheet might help me out but atleast help was offered. after the wiring for the i900 is done im gonna check/time the ing again

should install same way,only pictures i could find when i googled it.
did you get pm about elongating slots or was that useless info also? :blink:

For ignition timing, use only the F mark, and ignore the T mark.

At idle rpm, the F mark should align with the permanent case mark.

Good Fortune!

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Dyna had a web site at one time, with info, I would call them, they are good people to deal with, just wish their products were as good.

PLUMMEN wrote:

should install same way,only pictures i could find when i googled it.
did you get pm about elongating slots or was that useless info also? :blink:

I didnt say it was useless. But basicly the gl is totally diffrent the coils are 12 34 not 14 23 but atleast you tried to help. I have read about grinding a little on the slots. Im not having a issue with not getting close to time i just needed a more exact picture on the 73 style and lining what up when.

"when the timing is full advanced its WAY past that mark"... Way Past the advance Markings?

For both 1/4 and 2/3 past the advance marks...?

Using a 12Vdc auto light, Static timing come out to spec?

From what I found, if you're on the $$$ in the static adjustment, a very small tweak of each pickup during the 2500rpm was required... hmmm

Out of curiosity, you running stock cams @ 110 LC?

Timing chain exhaust cam pin to intake cam sprocket mark count to spec? Possibly jumped a tooth...

Just to confirm understanding that the advancer involved here is the early style oem on 1973 Z1.

F mark should align at idle rpm when using a strobe type timing light (dynamic timing method) or when using a bulb or ohmmeter to determine moment of points opening (static timing method).

May use same timing procedure with Dyna-S as used with points.
The same advancer is still used.
The coil still fires at moment when the primary winding becomes un-grounded.

If a later model advancer has been fitted, it doesn't matter.
Use the F mark and proceed accordingly.

Good Fortune!

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NOTE -- The early and late advancers use different Dyna-S rotors.
Early advancer uses a special "3A" rotor with Dyna-S.
Later advancer uses the standard "3" rotor with Dyna-S.

If not already done, would assure that the correct Dyna-S rotor is being used for the particular advancer fitted.

Click > www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?ID=200

Dyna-S Electronic Ignition DS2-1 - Kawasaki Z1 KZ900 KZ1000
DYDS2-1

OEM: DS2-1-

1 year factory warranty - for Kawasaki Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 KZ1100 - set and forget - no more messing with points... creates a stronger more consistent spark

If you have a 73 Z1 or an early 74 Z1A, we may need to supply a different crank rotor. Up through engine number Z1F-32817 kawasaki installed a 5/40 degree mechanical advancer (normal fire mark is 5 degrees then advancing to 40 degrees). If you have one of these on your engine, please enter a note in the special instructions to replace the standard rotor (3 rotor) in the Dyna-S with one special for these early bikes (3A rotor).)
As many advancers have been swapped from bike to bike, please check before ordering.

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Good Fortune!

Old Man Rock wrote:

"when the timing is full advanced its WAY past that mark"... Way Past the advance Markings?

CORRECT, FROM WHAT I HAVE READ IT SHOULD BE 1/4" PAST LAST MARK, IM GETTING LIKE 1/2"

For both 1/4 and 2/3 past the advance marks...?

CORRECT

Using a 12Vdc auto light, Static timing come out to spec?

HAVE YET TO RECHECK BUT IS ON MY LIST OF STUFF TO DO

From what I found, if you're on the $$$ in the static adjustment, a very small tweak of each pickup during the 2500rpm was required... hmmm

Out of curiosity, you running stock cams @ 110 LC?

I THINK THE MOTORS ALL STOCK GUTS

Timing chain exhaust cam pin to intake cam sprocket mark count to spec? Possibly jumped a tooth...

HAVENT CHECKED YET