Anyone here own a MSD MC1 or MC2 ignition?
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18 Oct 2010 15:58 #407475
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Anyone here own a MSD MC1 or MC2 ignition? was created by otakar
Anyone own one that can give me some help with the adapter cable?
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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18 Oct 2010 17:20 #407496
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79 KZ 1075 MKll
79 KZ 1500 MKll dragbike
Gone but not forgotten:
3 X 73 Z1's
1 X 74 Z1A
1 X 75 Z1B
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MSD MC1's for a long time. I'd suggest going directly to MSD ,they have treated me very well on any service/tech issues.
By adaptor cable I assume you mean the main harness cable/plug. What kind of problems are you having ?
By adaptor cable I assume you mean the main harness cable/plug. What kind of problems are you having ?
79 KZ 1075 MKll
79 KZ 1500 MKll dragbike
Gone but not forgotten:
3 X 73 Z1's
1 X 74 Z1A
1 X 75 Z1B
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18 Oct 2010 18:13 #407503
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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I bought a unit and it came without the cable. The wire colors that come from the unit and the colors in the cable harness are not the same. I need to know the color references. I have already called MSD and they are having a hard time.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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18 Oct 2010 18:55 #407508
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic Anyone here own a MSD MC1 or MC2 ignition?
I also went on the MSD support forums, and someone els has the same problem with the MC2 (which uses the same cable) his questions have gone unanswered. There seams to be a lacking yellow wire and one too many black wires and two to many grey wires.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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18 Oct 2010 19:03 - 18 Oct 2010 19:04 #407510
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1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
Replied by Motor Head on topic Anyone here own a MSD MC1 or MC2 ignition?
I'm guessing you have seen read this pdf?
www.msdpowersports.com/pdf/frm17605_pn4220.pdf
www.msdpowersports.com/pdf/frm17605_pn4220.pdf
1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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18 Oct 2010 20:44 #407524
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic Anyone here own a MSD MC1 or MC2 ignition?
Yes I saw that. I have the MC1 not the MC2 and I have that diagram for the MC1. The problem is that the wiring harness is not available any more and the wire colors on the harness are not the same as what comes from the actual unit. That is my dilemma. There are three colors that do not match and there are extra wires.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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19 Oct 2010 06:10 #407562
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1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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So MSD MC-1, Install pdf:
www.msdpowersports.com/pdf/frm1022_pn4210.pdf
No help for the wires colors or pin numbers where the control box plug is concerned. I see the instructions wee from 92, they should have this info on an old 486 computer drive, and hopefully a printed sheet of paper. I looked for the part #4211 cable assy, but saw nothing mentioned except the kit comes with it. MSD should have info on this part somewhere, might just have to try again and hopefully get someone who has been there a long time.
Maybe post a pic of the control box plug, it might jog someones memory, and a detail of the wire colors that are on the box. It looks like there will be some extra wires, but the color?
www.msdpowersports.com/pdf/frm1022_pn4210.pdf
No help for the wires colors or pin numbers where the control box plug is concerned. I see the instructions wee from 92, they should have this info on an old 486 computer drive, and hopefully a printed sheet of paper. I looked for the part #4211 cable assy, but saw nothing mentioned except the kit comes with it. MSD should have info on this part somewhere, might just have to try again and hopefully get someone who has been there a long time.
Maybe post a pic of the control box plug, it might jog someones memory, and a detail of the wire colors that are on the box. It looks like there will be some extra wires, but the color?
1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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19 Oct 2010 06:47 #407567
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic Anyone here own a MSD MC1 or MC2 ignition?
That is the sheet I have also. I called MSD about it and they can't find any schematics with the original box and wire colors coming out of it. Most but not all the colors match. The "not all" colors are the ones that are causing a problem. The -GREEN, WHITE, VIOLET, & ORANGE, are no problem. It is the TWO BLACKS and the "THREE" GRAYS that are causing the problem. Plus we are missing a YELLOW.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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19 Oct 2010 07:22 - 19 Oct 2010 07:34 #407569
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1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
Replied by Motor Head on topic Anyone here own a MSD MC1 or MC2 ignition?
They state:
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So the grey wires are a switched 12v source. I think the reason there is 3 is for accessory installs, other shifters or such.
But no luck on the yellow, is the 2 black wires in the same part of the harness with the heat shrink? Or is 1 of the blacks out with the red?
It looks like circuit "Z" is the 12v switched to the coils, so 1 of those gray's most likely is actually a "yellow"
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So the grey wires are a switched 12v source. I think the reason there is 3 is for accessory installs, other shifters or such.
But no luck on the yellow, is the 2 black wires in the same part of the harness with the heat shrink? Or is 1 of the blacks out with the red?
It looks like circuit "Z" is the 12v switched to the coils, so 1 of those gray's most likely is actually a "yellow"
1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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19 Oct 2010 07:35 #407571
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1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
Replied by Motor Head on topic Anyone here own a MSD MC1 or MC2 ignition?
1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...
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19 Oct 2010 08:28 #407577
by otakar
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic Anyone here own a MSD MC1 or MC2 ignition?
I am wondering if the black and yellow wire can be interchanged and therefore they are both black out of the box. There is a separate red and black wire that hook up to the battery. I also wonder if all three gray wires just go to a switched positive.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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19 Oct 2010 12:52 #407595
by otakar
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic Anyone here own a MSD MC1 or MC2 ignition?
I studied the prints and the available wire colors some more. I believe that ALL THREE of the gray wires will be "switched Positive" from ignition switch. I also believe that the Black and Yellow wires are interchangeable, since they are both the "Z" wires going to the coils. In short, all three grays are "Z" positive going into the box and black/yellow(second black) is the same "Z" going out.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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