BS34s can't get them right.

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26 Aug 2022 19:13 #872921 by OkieZ1000
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Greetings, 

I've reached a point where I'm about out of ideas with these carbs. Hoping a fresh mind might point me in a direction I haven't already tried 3 times. 

I've spent hundreds of dollars on the stock set of BS34s on my 82 kz1000 K2.  Some things include.
  1. 4 New Diaphrams
  2. 4 New carb kits
  3. 4 Genuine Mikuni float needles
  4. 4 New floats
  5. 4 New stock sized jets (PO had jetted way up)
I've also overhauled the fuel petcock, set the floats via clear tube (see attached).  I have also synced the carbs.

The last test it ran great down low, but chattered under WOT, so I pulled and cleaned the carbs, checked the float level again, put in fresh plugs and now the #3 carb pours fuel back into the breather box and onto the ground and it barely runs!

Every time i pull the carbs, it's something different. 

What the heck, are these things cursed? 

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27 Aug 2022 18:03 #872967 by Nebr_Rex
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On no. 3 you might have something in the needle and seat holding it open.
Did the previous owner change the jet needle and/or drill the slides?


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79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
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27 Aug 2022 21:33 #872979 by DoctoRot
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It’s not uncommon to have the floats stick open when the carbs are dry. I’ve literally had brand new RS carbs piss fuel the first time they got filled. Tappy tap with a screw driver handle and they should close. Either that or you may have debris in your fuel system 

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28 Aug 2022 14:51 #873024 by OkieZ1000
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You were correct.   

More junk in the float seat holding it open. I cleaned everything again and added a paper inline filter.  This seems to have cleared things up (for now).

I'll put some miles on it and see if that will keep the junk out of the carbs. 

Thanks
Scott

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28 Aug 2022 16:37 #873028 by Nebr_Rex
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You're welcome.


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2002 ZRX1200R
81 GPz1100
79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

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28 Aug 2022 16:40 #873029 by Nessism
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Be sure the filter you installed is for a gravity feed fuel system, such as for a lawn mower.  Many times paper filters have resistance and will restrict fuel flow.
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29 Aug 2022 08:24 #873059 by OkieZ1000
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Good point. 

It does exhibit some fuel starvation tendencies under quick load up. 

The paper filter I got was from an auto parts store.  Everything I found in the lawn mower variety was 1/4 and the bike has 5/16 fuel line.

Is there any particular inline filter you would recommend, like a porous brass style that comes in a 5/16?
 

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29 Aug 2022 09:34 #873063 by Elfarm98648
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I use THIS  one by edelbrock. Picked it up from my local autozone for right at $15. Expensive yes however I have had zero issues with carbs getting trash in them and it’s also cleanable so you can spray out the brass filter or just buy a replacement and continue to use the housing. 

my only complaint though is the length of the filter, it is quite large to be sticking under the tank however once I found the best way to mount it, I’ve had zero issues out of it. 

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29 Aug 2022 16:09 #873076 by TexasKZ
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I like this one.   golanproducts.com/product-category/filters/super-mini-filters/
It is expensive, but it filters smaller particles than any other filter I have found, and the filter material is washable, so it will last a lifetime. Looks trick, too.

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30 Aug 2022 00:24 - 30 Aug 2022 00:36 #873084 by DoctoRot
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I have one of those Golan filters on my KZ1000. You'd be surprised what makes it through that filter, not worth the price IMO. The 20 micron claim is hilarious since the human eye cannot even see that small - white blood cell is 25 microns! I personally have seen particles with fresh gas in fresh carbs that were around .005-.010" while running that filter.

Since buying the golan filter and realizing it doesn't seem to stop the tiny stuff I changed to relying on the petcock filter only - the way nature intended. Haven't had an issue yet and i have done this on many bikes. Its better to clean your tank out than to put a in-line filter in for long term success. If you need a quick fix a filter can help obviously.
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