Starter (choke) plungers

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Starter (choke) plungers

28 Feb 2021 19:22
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Wish I'd done this sooner. :whistle:
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Re: Starter (choke) plungers

01 Mar 2021 06:49
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They went in fine. B)
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Re: Starter (choke) plungers

01 Mar 2021 13:23
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Still got More to do. B)
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Re: Starter (choke) plungers

29 Jul 2023 14:05
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Is there another video host site other than youtube? Was a considerable wealth of great information!!
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Re: Starter (choke) plungers

29 Jul 2023 14:55
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I am now on Rumble. YouTube may be going the way of the DO DO bird. 
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Re: Starter (choke) plungers

22 Nov 2025 04:55
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Is there anybody making new rubber plungers that I can replace the old rubber with?
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Re: Starter (choke) plungers

22 Nov 2025 05:19 - 22 Nov 2025 08:57
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Send them to zed1015 (Rob Meggitt) in the UK. Cheap renewal service.
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Re: Starter (choke) plungers

22 Nov 2025 08:30 - 22 Nov 2025 11:54
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Sending your plungers to zed1015 is the obvious answer.  That said, I've replaced plunger seals myself before, and it's not horribly difficult.  The motivation to try myself came from a thread here, where someone posted photos of a tool they made to punch out the rubber donuts.  I copied the tool, but struggled to make consistent donuts.  In the end, I changed the process, and have had good success since.

First off, you need some 2mm thick viton sheet rubber.  I use grade A sheet, but B is slightly better, since it has even more chemical resistance.  I'm pretty certain that the A sheet is superior to whatever Mikuni used previous, though.  I punched a small hole in the viton, using a leather punch.  Then a piece of sharpened tubing can be used to punch out the outside shape.  Try your best to keep the holes centered, but as long as the OD is oversize, don't worry.  

I stack half a dozen donuts on a finishing nail, then chuck them up in a drill motor.  Then spin, and sand down the OD, truing up the concentricy, and achieving the proper OD.  VM carbs need a 7.0mm diameter rubber donut, and BS/CV carbs need 7.1mm. 

To remove the old rubber, I drop the plungers in carb dip.  After a couple of days, the rubber softens, expands, and pooches out, so you can use a small pick and remove it.

Getting the new donut into the recessed cavity can be challenging.  I lube the rubber with silicone grease, and use a small, somewhat dull edge screwdriver to tuck in the rubber.  You can get about 75% installed this way.  The last part is the hardest; I took an old pick tool, curved the end into sort of a spoon shape, and use that to slowing work the rubber into the plunger recess.  I've torn a rubber or two this way, but after a while, I got the hang of it and the install came off no problem.  Worst case, remove the rubber and start again.  If I can do it, so can others.  Oh, and Clay has been replacing the rubbers for many years.  Actually, I think he simply stacks a small O-ring on top of the old seal these days, since his bag of viton donuts has gone missing.  I'll leave it up to him to finish the story, though.  

 
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Re: Starter (choke) plungers

23 Nov 2025 02:54 - 23 Nov 2025 02:55
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Only thing to add to Nessim's process is, be very gentle working next to the center pin of the plunger.   That pin must be precisely parallel to the axis of the shaft in order for the pin to move easily in its bore in the carb body.  The clearance is just a couple thou (inch) or so, if that. The metal of the pin is quite soft, and the pin can be bent easily.  Doesn't take much deformation to cause the pin to hang in its bore.

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