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15 Jul 2020 17:29 #830762 by 750 R1
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I am chasing a carb kit for a 1981 Z650, it has the VM24's on it, I have been searching for carb kits and they all seem to be for 77/78 650's. Are all the vm24's on the 650's the same ? Any kits better than the others ?

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15 Jul 2020 18:09 #830768 by 750 R1
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Nessism wrote: Why do want carb kits?


Just bought a 81 Z650 for my son, hasn't been on the road at all for well over 5 years, we started it up and it ran on 3 cylinders with fuel pouring out of the 3rd carb overflow, the tank is full of old fuel and there's some very light surface rust in there so it went through the carbs as well, don't want to screw around so we'll rebuild the carbs....

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15 Jul 2020 18:14 #830769 by 650ed
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Do as you think best, but if it was mine I definitely would not replace any of the hard pieces with anything from a kit. I've put more than 62,000 miles on my 1977 KZ650, which I bought new way back when, and none of the carb hard parts have ever worn or needed replacing. One other tip - keep each carbs pieces together rather than mixing them between carbs. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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15 Jul 2020 18:22 #830770 by 750 R1
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Thanks Ed, Its had a 700cc kit put in it 500 miles before it went into storage, the carb kits I've looked at had a variety of jets so I thought it would make sense to use one, I definitely want to change the o rings and gaskets, Carbs will be pulled apart separately. Anyway, back to the question, are the VM24 carbs basically the same ?

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15 Jul 2020 19:13 - 15 Jul 2020 19:20 #830773 by 650ed
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I don't know of all the differences, but I know the early VM24 carbs (such as the 1977 carbs) did not have accelerator pumps, but the later ones did.

Also, the 1977 carbs do not have an orifice that has a hose that connects to the petcock. Early petcocks were manual, later ones shut off when vacuum stopped being applied at the carb because the engine was shut off. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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15 Jul 2020 20:01 #830777 by Nessism
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Cycleorings.com sells a VM O-ring kit that should have a lot of the rubber parts you need. Z1 Enterprises should have O-rings and gaskets too. That's all I'd replace other than maybe float seats if they are thrashed. And if they are I'd get proper Mikuni parts. You can find them on Amazon for good prices.
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16 Jul 2020 02:21 - 16 Jul 2020 02:24 #830789 by zed1015
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All the VM24's are basically the same as regards to the gaskets etc with some slight differences as mentioned above such as jetting from model to model and the accel pump on some.
For more specific and a larger pool of Z650 knowledge you might want to try the Z650 pro boards forum
z650.proboards.com/

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16 Jul 2020 02:43 #830790 by 750 R1
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Thanks for the replies everyone .....!

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16 Jul 2020 08:18 - 16 Jul 2020 08:27 #830798 by martin_csr
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By 750 R1: Thanks Ed, Its had a 700cc kit put in it 500 miles before it went into storage, the carb kits I've looked at had a variety of jets so I thought it would make sense to use one, I definitely want to change the o rings and gaskets, Carbs will be pulled apart separately. Anyway, back to the question, are the VM24 carbs basically the same ?

Were the carburetors rejetted or tuned for the 700 kit? I'd guess you'd need larger main jets, maybe #17 pilot jets & maybe shim the jet needles to raise them.

I haven't checked in a while, but I've never seen carburetor kits for the 81 KZ650-CSR. I just disassembled & cleaned everything, then installed new gaskets & o-rings. There are 2 or 3 different float bowl gaskets, so verify which ones you have before ordering. A metric nitrile o-ring kit from HarborFreight had most of the needed sizes except for the starter plunger o-rings which I got from the dealer, but Z1Enterprises.com may have them.
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16 Jul 2020 11:30 #830812 by KZB2 650
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Check partzilla too they have a pretty decent schematic of the carbs and a lot of the rings and gaskets. Could probably do better on the cost but is of good quality.

1978 KZ650 b-2
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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16 Jul 2020 14:00 #830825 by gd4now
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Here are some tables i created in the past, have posted them here before cut can not find them now. The tables have the info I can find and make sense of about the different carbs that came stock on the (K)Z650s

1977 KZ650 B1
Pods and Denco header


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