Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
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Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
05 Jul 2020 10:28 - 05 Jul 2020 11:49
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Been riding with the accelerator pump operational since my RS34 carbs were installed several years ago, and have recently been thinking about disabling that fuel system.
Will trial-ride with the pump rod removed, and update with my impression.
In the mean time, I look forward to receiving member thoughts and suggestions...
Been riding with the accelerator pump operational since my RS34 carbs were installed several years ago, and have recently been thinking about disabling that fuel system.
Will trial-ride with the pump rod removed, and update with my impression.
In the mean time, I look forward to receiving member thoughts and suggestions...
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Re: Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
05 Jul 2020 16:25
I disabled mine for a season a few years ago. It seemed to run better but at the time my bike was a stock 81 LTD with RS34's running 125 mains. I will be interested to hear your results as my bike is an almost identical build to yours.
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Re: Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
15 Jul 2020 14:32Matt bx wrote: I disabled mine for a season a few years ago. It seemed to run better but at the time my bike was a stock 81 LTD with RS34's running 125 mains. I will be interested to hear your results as my bike is an almost identical build to yours.
I like the way the engine runs too, so I made a few changes to the carbs in addition to removing the pump rod.
115 main jets seem good for my engine setup, which runs incredibly well on regular gasoline.
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Re: Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
15 Jul 2020 21:45 - 15 Jul 2020 21:46
I don't understand why you would want to remove the accelerator pump system. Thats kinda the point of going to RS carbs to me.
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Re: Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
16 Jul 2020 11:09 - 16 Jul 2020 11:12DoctoRot wrote: I don't understand why you would want to remove the accelerator pump system. Thats kinda the point of going to RS carbs to me.
Agreed, though the pump being disconnected for me is barely if at all noticeable. This is a road bike that doesn't get raced, though it does love accelerating through the winding roads around the town where I live.
At this point, I have removed the plunger w/spring, and the three rubber fuel hoses between the bowls. The fuel-feed hole in the #3 bowl was tapped-plugged with a #4-40 brass screw, and I replaced the o-ring bowl gasket to seal off the system. This is all temporary and easily reversible when/if desired.
Now we'll see if that despised overflow drip has been eliminated. So far, so good!
These RS34's were a reasonably priced alternative to the BS34 CV carbs that came with my bike, which have severely-limited tuning capability by comparison.
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Re: Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
16 Jul 2020 20:42 - 16 Jul 2020 20:45
Was it setup correctly beforehand? mine came from the factory opening way too late. It should be opening almost immediately after opening the throttle, these carbs are known for their super snappy throttle response due in part to this feature. I still don't understand why you would want to disable it other than to simplify tuning. I feel ya on the drip. Happens on every set of RS carbs I have touched.
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Re: Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
17 Jul 2020 09:37DoctoRot wrote: Was it setup correctly beforehand? mine came from the factory opening way too late. It should be opening almost immediately after opening the throttle, these carbs are known for their super snappy throttle response due in part to this feature. I still don't understand why you would want to disable it other than to simplify tuning. I feel ya on the drip. Happens on every set of RS carbs I have touched.
Found this lightly used set on ebay. It was missing the plunger rod, but still had the factory jets.
Honestly, I don't sense a loss of performance without the pump. It was adjusted to start before half throttle opening.
There is less residue laying in the stacks now, probably since no fuel is splashing off the back of the slides.
I believe this mod has solved the fuel drip mystery. Hallelluliah!
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Re: Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
17 Jul 2020 10:35
Interesting. I always assumed the drip had to do with the floats or needles because the drips came from the overflows.
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17 Jul 2020 12:58DoctoRot wrote: Interesting. I always assumed the drip had to do with the floats or needles because the drips came from the overflows.
Correct, but what causes that when the bike is just sitting and undisturbed?
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Re: Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
24 Jul 2020 12:30Matt bx wrote: I disabled mine for a season a few years ago. It seemed to run better but at the time my bike was a stock 81 LTD with RS34's running 125 mains. I will be interested to hear your results as my bike is an almost identical build to yours.
Still not a single drip or drop from any fuel overflow...
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Re: Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
26 Jul 2020 07:32 - 26 Jul 2020 07:37
When you disabled the system did you cap off the nipples on the float bowls? Or is that #4 screw keeping all the gas from entering the plunger chambers?
I just bought some RS34's and am looking to disable the accelerator system, still waiting for them to get to me so I have not had a opportunity to check them out.
I just bought some RS34's and am looking to disable the accelerator system, still waiting for them to get to me so I have not had a opportunity to check them out.
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1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
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Re: Mikuni RS Flat Slide Accelerator Pump System
28 Jul 2020 08:56Injected wrote: When you disabled the system did you cap off the nipples on the float bowls? Or is that #4 screw keeping all the gas from entering the plunger chambers?
I just bought some RS34's and am looking to disable the accelerator system, still waiting for them to get to me so I have not had a opportunity to check them out.
I used a #4-40 x 3/16" countersink brass machine screw (hardware store item), with a tiny drop of Loctite 271 on the threads.
After removing the fuel hoses, I stuffed a piece of coated elec. wire in each tube, with just enough protruding for removal. The #2 and #3 bowl tubes pass through.
An uncut bowl gasket will be needed for the #3 carb. The one provided for the pump bowl has a segment removed.
Reference ebay items 233626068037 and 233626069109
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