Help!! I Lost lots of mpg with New Mikuni Carbs

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23 Apr 2015 17:13 #669336 by Tomgeilfuss87
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I got rid of the original carbs on my KZ440, and I put two new mikuni VM28's on. Its been a huge disaster. It runs decent now, but I used to get over 40mpg, now I am getting around 23 mpg. Does anyone have any ideas? Could I run the 440 on just one mikuni carb? I also have Pod filters on. The original air box and original carbs are gone for good and not coming back.

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23 Apr 2015 17:23 #669337 by SWest
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Why did you get rid of your old carbs? Check your plugs. Are they black?
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23 Apr 2015 19:21 #669351 by Tomgeilfuss87
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Yes, the plugs are black. I was very uneducated about carbs and mechanics at the time. Long story short, someone told me they could tune them for me, to work better with pod filters, and they ended up ruining them. So i got mikuni VM 28's and it is working well now, however it uses way more gas.

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23 Apr 2015 20:54 #669367 by kaw-a-holic
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Any other mods? Sounds like they are running way to rich. Unfortunately pods make are a PIA to tune with. Now that I have stated the obvious, all I can suggest is to get the jetting right. Once that is accomplished the MPG should bounce back a bit. What size where the OEM carbs? If the only changes are pods and a header you only need to be running a bit richer than you were on the original carbs.
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23 Apr 2015 21:15 #669371 by SWest
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Pull a pilot and main jet and tell us what you have.
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24 Apr 2015 08:41 #669403 by Tomgeilfuss87
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I have not put any after market exhaust pipes on. Is that what you meant by header? Someone told me if i bought a new exhaust system it could reduce the MPG since it would be getting better air flow through the engine. However, If i can I would like to avoid spending much more money.

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24 Apr 2015 08:41 #669404 by Tomgeilfuss87
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Ok, I will pull the pilot, and main jet, and get back to you.

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24 Apr 2015 08:45 #669406 by SWest
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So you haven't looked at the jets yet? A better exhaust will improve the performance, thus better mileage.
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24 Apr 2015 14:33 - 24 Apr 2015 14:34 #669434 by baldy110
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28 mm carbs are WAY TO BIG for your engine.
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24 Apr 2015 15:01 #669437 by 650ed
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I don't think that is the case, because his KZ400 is a twin. According to kz400.com the 1977 KZ400-D4 actually came with new 32mm CV carbs. That sounds huge to me, but I guess since each cylinder is about 200cc it's the equivalent of an 800cc 4 cylinder engine. Ed
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24 Apr 2015 15:32 #669441 by DoctoRot
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I believe the 440 came stock with CV34s on it, as part of an effort of kawasaki to standardize carbs across the lineup.
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24 Apr 2015 17:29 #669451 by SWest
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I'm still waiting on the jet size and pics of the plugs.
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