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15 Jan 2014 09:15 #618699 by Serpent7
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I have a '79 KZ1000, upgrades include Dyna coils, wires, and ignition. K&N individual pod filters, and K&N oil filter. 4 into 1 sidewinder exhaust, and Kerker pipe with no baffle.

I currently have a stage 1 jet kit on my mikuni 28 carbs. I was wondering, should I upgrade to a stage 2, or stage 3 jet kit? My bike runs well, and idles just OK now.

What are the benefits of upgrading my jets in my carb to a stage 2, or 3?

If you had this same set-up, which jet kit would you go with?

How will going to a stage 2, or stage 3 jet kit affect my gas mileage, and put-puts around town?

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15 Jan 2014 10:27 #618713 by StreetfighterKz
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If it was me, I'd do a ton of searching on this site and re-jet using the suggestions that I found and save a bunch of money over a jet kit.

A normal set up would be either 2.5-3 turns out on the stock pilot or 1 size larger and a couple steps up larger on the main. Perhaps shim the needle if needed. Done!

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15 Jan 2014 12:41 - 15 Jan 2014 12:42 #618728 by koolaid_kid
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IIRC, your engine is the only KZ with VM carbs that DynoJet makes a kit for.
Your bike is on the needle most of the time, and DynoJet claims they spend the bulk of their time refining the taper of the needle for maximum performance. Since you already have the needle, all you need are larger main jets. 2-3 sizes might just do it.

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15 Jan 2014 12:57 #618731 by sbc1320
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My 1000 came to me with the Dyanjet Stage III kits installed. Mine has 145 mains and stock pilots I believe from going over my paperwork. According to the cross reference my Dynojet 145's equal to a 131 main jet. My bike is setup the same as your's, but has MTC 10.5 pistons on a stock bore. My carbs are 28 pumpers and work well.

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15 Jan 2014 13:56 #618747 by koolaid_kid
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Serpent7, in case you don't know, DynoJet uses a different numbering system on their jets. So it sounds like you can get OEM jets in 130 to do the trick, or 145 from DynoJet. Not sure on the price of OEM jets, but I believe the DynoJet jets are $2 each.

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16 Jan 2014 09:11 #618834 by Serpent7
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sbc1320 wrote: My 1000 came to me with the Dyanjet Stage III kits installed. Mine has 145 mains and stock pilots I believe from going over my paperwork. According to the cross reference my Dynojet 145's equal to a 131 main jet. My bike is setup the same as your's, but has MTC 10.5 pistons on a stock bore. My carbs are 28 pumpers and work well.


So…. (and I'm new to the carb scene) All I heed to do is purchase the main jets in either 131, or 130 (oem), or Dyno Jets 145's and I'm at a stage 3 jet kit? How many main jets do I need?

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16 Jan 2014 09:39 #618836 by sbc1320
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sbc1320 wrote: My 1000 came to me with the Dyanjet Stage III kits installed. Mine has 145 mains and stock pilots I believe from going over my paperwork. According to the cross reference my Dynojet 145's equal to a 131 main jet. My bike is setup the same as your's, but has MTC 10.5 pistons on a stock bore. My carbs are 28 pumpers and work well.


So…. (and I'm new to the carb scene) All I heed to do is purchase the main jets in either 131, or 130 (oem), or Dyno Jets 145's and I'm at a stage 3 jet kit? How many main jets do I need?


You would need 4 main jets. Mine is equal to a 131, but they only come in increments of 2.5 so if stock jets are used it would be a 130 or a 132.5. Mine has added compression so you shouldn't need quiet as big as mine I would think. Once you run it hard you are supposed to shut the engine off and check the plugs to make sure they are not too lean. Too much idling and you can't read the plugs. You would probably come in at around a 120 to a 125(stock jets, not Dynojets) I am guessing.

What size are in your's now?

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Past bikes- 2 1976 Kz900's, 5 1975-76 Honda CB750's, Honda 500 -4, Honda 250, Honda 125, Honda 100, Suzuki RM 250, Honda XL350, Kawasaki KLR 650, etc..
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16 Jan 2014 11:38 #618852 by koolaid_kid
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Serpent7 wrote:

sbc1320 wrote: My 1000 came to me with the Dyanjet Stage III kits installed. Mine has 145 mains and stock pilots I believe from going over my paperwork. According to the cross reference my Dynojet 145's equal to a 131 main jet. My bike is setup the same as your's, but has MTC 10.5 pistons on a stock bore. My carbs are 28 pumpers and work well.


So…. (and I'm new to the carb scene) All I heed to do is purchase the main jets in either 131, or 130 (oem), or Dyno Jets 145's and I'm at a stage 3 jet kit? How many main jets do I need?

Yes, that would put you at a Stage 3 kit. Personally, when I am targeting a particular number, such as 145, I prefer to go ahead and order the size below and above, just in case. You will end up with 12 unused jets, but you will be able to fine tune it without waiting for more jets to arrive if 145 is not the perfect number.

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16 Jan 2014 16:53 #618880 by Serpent7
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Ok!I think I got it now... Last question is, I need needle jets, right?

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16 Jan 2014 18:14 #618891 by Nebr_Rex
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Buy a stage 3, all-inclusive.

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16 Jan 2014 18:36 #618894 by TexasKZ
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Are you sure you have a jetting problem? Why do you want to mess with them?

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17 Jan 2014 05:15 #618923 by koolaid_kid
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Serpent7 wrote: Ok!I think I got it now... Last question is, I need needle jets, right?

Nope. Just main jets.

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