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14 Sep 2010 06:49 #398561 by kz1k
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well i need to go buy some....i went outside and the floats are moving but 3 are stiff. i sprayed some wd.....but the butterfly valve moves a 1/8th inch and then stops.....

1978 KZ1000A2

"JUST IN! A MAN WHO HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD FOR USING THE MOST DRUGS DIES TODAY. HE WAS WAS ATTACKED BY A PACK OF WILD DOGS HE THOUGHT HE SAW"

WHY FART AND WASTE IT, WHEN YOU CAN BURP AND TASTE IT?

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14 Sep 2010 07:10 #398567 by otakar
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kz1k wrote:

well today before i installed my carbs i tried to manualy move the throttle body and it wouldnt budge. is it something inside frozen? should i take out the bottom end of them and spray with wd, or bolt losner? when i was givin the carbs i was told they need a rebuild whitch i will get to, but for now i just wanna see if the motor runs before i dump any $. thanks


btw its a kz1000 LTD


What year 1000LTD. they changed quite a bit from year to year. Insert your bike particulars into your profile signature and you will no longer have to answer this question. Make sure you include all the bike extras, such as aftermarket ignitions, coils, carburetors and so on.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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14 Sep 2010 07:13 #398570 by otakar
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kz1k wrote:

well i need to go buy some....i went outside and the floats are moving but 3 are stiff. i sprayed some wd.....but the butterfly valve moves a 1/8th inch and then stops.....


This is what is confusing, you say "butterfly valve and than you say that it is a 79LTD. They did not have carburetors with "butterfly valves" They had VM26 or VM28 (I forget which) manual slide carburetors. Butterfly carbs were not until the BS34 carbs were introduced on the "J" series motors in 1981.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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14 Sep 2010 07:17 #398574 by muddy1
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He mentioned 78 as the year a few posts back

1970 SL-70
1972 CB 750
1973 Z1
1976 YZ 125
1976 KZ400
1979 KZ400 LTD
1980 KZ1000 LTD B4
1984 YZ 490
1989 750 Ninja

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14 Sep 2010 07:20 #398575 by Motor Head
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7-77 was the tag on the frame, and down the list there is the carbs, look like VM's not BS's.

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...

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14 Sep 2010 07:24 - 14 Sep 2010 07:25 #398576 by otakar
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That was what I was presuming, that is why I showed him those rebuild kits. 7/77 should be a 77LTD I believe that the 78s would have started in 9/77. The tag should give him the particular model or we can tell by the VIN. But he keeps on saying "butterfly valves. That is what is throwing me. Maybe someone before him changed the carbs to BS stile.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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14 Sep 2010 07:25 #398577 by kz1k
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ill take a picture of what i have...brb.

1978 KZ1000A2

"JUST IN! A MAN WHO HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD FOR USING THE MOST DRUGS DIES TODAY. HE WAS WAS ATTACKED BY A PACK OF WILD DOGS HE THOUGHT HE SAW"

WHY FART AND WASTE IT, WHEN YOU CAN BURP AND TASTE IT?

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14 Sep 2010 07:26 #398578 by Motor Head
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It would help a lot if another picture of the carbs was posted, the one in his other is of a stack of parts with the carbs in view, look like VM's.

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
1980 KZ550LTD C1 Stock SOLD Miss it
1979 MAZDA RX7 in the works, 13B...

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14 Sep 2010 07:30 - 14 Sep 2010 07:34 #398580 by kz1k
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yeah the title says its a 78. maybe its wrong? heres some pics with the top and bottom off because im trying to clean them. later i will go get some carb cleaner and let them soak. they have a black almost tar substance on them and in them. the last time it was on the road was 2006. then when i got it last week for free, it was in parts.


the only float that moves freely is the 1 on the right.

1978 KZ1000A2

"JUST IN! A MAN WHO HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD FOR USING THE MOST DRUGS DIES TODAY. HE WAS WAS ATTACKED BY A PACK OF WILD DOGS HE THOUGHT HE SAW"

WHY FART AND WASTE IT, WHEN YOU CAN BURP AND TASTE IT?
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14 Sep 2010 07:31 - 14 Sep 2010 07:32 #398581 by kz1k
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you can see in a few pics the black shiny sticky residue.

the first pic really shows it on the floats.

pay no attention to the bud can...lol

1978 KZ1000A2

"JUST IN! A MAN WHO HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD FOR USING THE MOST DRUGS DIES TODAY. HE WAS WAS ATTACKED BY A PACK OF WILD DOGS HE THOUGHT HE SAW"

WHY FART AND WASTE IT, WHEN YOU CAN BURP AND TASTE IT?
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14 Sep 2010 07:33 #398584 by kz1k
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1978 KZ1000A2

"JUST IN! A MAN WHO HOLDS THE WORLD RECORD FOR USING THE MOST DRUGS DIES TODAY. HE WAS WAS ATTACKED BY A PACK OF WILD DOGS HE THOUGHT HE SAW"

WHY FART AND WASTE IT, WHEN YOU CAN BURP AND TASTE IT?
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14 Sep 2010 07:43 - 14 Sep 2010 07:46 #398589 by otakar
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OK I went back to find out the particulars of this bike.


The frame is a KZ1000-A2 (1978). The front and rear wheels are from a 79 or 80 bike, and the seat is from an LTD. I think that the seat and wheels are what throws us. We should treat this bike as a custom 78 A2 1000. Those carbs look like the stock VM26 carbs with the side adjusting screws like on the 77 bikes the 78 bikes had the bottom adjusting pilot screws. This would mean that the rebuild kit he requires is this one.

www.z1enterprises.com/detail.aspx?ID=43

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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