82 CSR 1000, removed air box for pod filters

I switched my 81 CV BS34's CSR1000 back to the airbox after having pods for a while. Even after dyno-tuning it, it didnt seem to co-ordinate well with my driving habits on that bike (2-up, stop n' go...), sure had lots o' power on the highway though.

I stuck with the pods on the 79 VM28's LTD1000 as it seemed to not benefit up top quite as much as the big BS34 carbs, but remained smoother operating at lower rpm with rich enough jetting and smaller carb of course. Made the bike a blast on the highway and to really rip around, it keeps up on the top end with the CSR, but cant compete for torque off the line.

I like having the choice of both worlds.

Cheers.

If you're looking for power, no one is going to replace just the airbox. You're replacing everything you can afford. So your "Again - replaced more than just pods" is ridiculous. It adds to the overall increase.
Thats like doing an awesome paint job on the sidecovers and spraying primer on the fenders and tank.

Go figure.....

PaulsKZ1000LTD wrote:

If you're looking for power, no one is going to replace just the airbox. You're replacing everything you can afford. So your "Again - replaced more than just pods" is ridiculous. It adds to the overall increase.
Thats like doing an awesome paint job on the sidecovers and spraying primer on the fenders and tank.

Go figure.....

Paul, get a grip then read the original post:

"I have a 82 CSR 1000, I pulled the air box off of it and put individual foam pod filters on each carb, now I can hardly get it to start and when I do it runs like shit. I was curious if anyone else has done this?"

My point is that if the ONLY change made it to replace the airbox with pods he is not going to see monumental performance gains. Once again you have verified my assertion- thanks again. Ed

PaulsKZ1000LTD wrote:

If you're looking for power, no one is going to replace just the airbox. You're replacing everything you can afford. So your "Again - replaced more than just pods" is ridiculous. It adds to the overall increase.
Thats like doing an awesome paint job on the sidecovers and spraying primer on the fenders and tank.

Go figure.....

I was thinking the same thing. Stock can be cool, but if you are looking for more power who is going to change JUST the airbox...I would think the exhaust would be the first to go, it was on my bike. The 30 year old exhausts are rusty and nasty, airboxes are just ugly, but they last.

If you replace the restrictive airbox, then you pretty much have to go to a bigger jet kit. More air means you need more gas. It'll run, but not how it should.

650ed wrote:

AlienTech wrote:

I'm no bike carb expert, actually I don't know chit about bike carbs LOL!!

....But I put pods on my 03 ZRX1200. I had also replaced the exhaust with a complete TiForce setup....

Again - replaced more than just pods. Thanks for the verification of my assertion.

Yep full disclosure

Pods look kuel, is that OK??

Look, lets face it, in the future we're all going to be using pods...




Alright, where's Plummen? It's funnier when he does it. :blush:

I have BS32 carbs on my 650, instead of BS34s for the 1000 cc engines, but they are still CV carbs and very similar. The motorcycle ran well with the standard air box, but I wondered whether it would perform better with reduced intake restriction. So I removed the air filter and top nozzle from the airbox. (The top opening of the air box without the nozzle is about 4", as compared to about 1 1/2" for the ID of the nozzle.)

The bike ran very poorly. Probably only put out 1/4 of the previous power. Later, I increased the Main jets by 2 sizes and tried the same experiment again. It ran slightly better than before - perhaps 1/3 of the horsepower with the air box.

My point is - that with CV carbs - it may take considerable re-jetting; jet needles and changes before the motorcycle will put out more power. It obviously can be done, but not without other significant changes. My $0.01 worth.

thequam wrote:

I have a 82 CSR 1000, I pulled the air box off of it and put individual foam pod filters on each carb, now I can hardly get it to start and when I do it runs like shit. I was curious if anyone else has done this? I'm thinking i need to put a jet kit in it, but just wanted some more input. any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

We just got done arguing this very issue in this thread, so I won't type my thoughts all over again :

kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...ew&catid=3&id=393572

Maybe it's possible to settle this scientifically. How about we pick an emissary from both the pod camp and the airbox camp. Then we evaluate two bikes on a series of varying criteria- Dyno test, road course, drag strip, heavy traffic drivability, foul weather drivability, etc. Maybe limit other modifications to exhaust and jetting as it seems that everybody has to do this anyway. Assign a point value to each test. The camp with the most points at the end of all the tests wins. This site has guys with the same bike all over the world. If two can't get together for a scientific evaluation than maybe everybody just needs to admit the obvious- pods=higher performance at the price of easy maintenance and all around streetability, stock airbox=great for stock bikes and riders who appreciate originality and don't wan't to mess with it.

WABBMW wrote:

I have BS32 carbs on my 650, instead of BS34s for the 1000 cc engines, but they are still CV carbs and very similar. The motorcycle ran well with the standard air box, but I wondered whether it would perform better with reduced intake restriction. So I removed the air filter and top nozzle from the airbox. (The top opening of the air box without the nozzle is about 4", as compared to about 1 1/2" for the ID of the nozzle.)

The bike ran very poorly. Probably only put out 1/4 of the previous power. Later, I increased the Main jets by 2 sizes and tried the same experiment again. It ran slightly better than before - perhaps 1/3 of the horsepower with the air box.

My point is - that with CV carbs - it may take considerable re-jetting; jet needles and changes before the motorcycle will put out more power. It obviously can be done, but not without other significant changes. My $0.01 worth.

Frome what i've read, those who have experienced any type of hp gains with pods had to richen the mains by 8-10 jet sizes !