AIR BOX Question

I have a stock air box but i dont have any hoses to connect to carbs! i found the hoses at Z1 but there like 40 bucks does anyone have them cheaper or do you think making a set would be okay ?

www.powersedge.com has some , but again around the same price only diff is you can buy them seprately like $ 8.00 for one and $ 11.00 for the curved ones. Still not a bad price to make it right and look good.

i found them at www.babbittsonline.com for 20$ its 8.00 for the inner 2 and 11.00 for outer

what would i have to do to switch to the 4 air pods and is it worth it ??

those found at babbit.com are $40.00 total, $ 8.00 for inner "req" 2=$16.00 and $ 12.00 for outer "req" 2=$24.00 total = $40.00 plus shipping and Handling

wow i didint even see that thanks for looking

what would i have to do to switch to the 4 air pods and is it worth it ??

I am a "Stock Lover" I dont like to butcher up anything just to make it look cool. Things that are made well(KAWASAKI)should be left alone. If it wasn't made broke dont fix it. But if you could attach some kind of mounting to the inlet of the carbs to support their weight,with the pods on ,I believe you would need to tune it??differently, to run with a more free flowing air intake. I know someone out here knows better then I how to make pods work for you.

I've got pods and a 4-into-1 header on my '77 KZ650 C1 and oversize jets, and I like the moderate performance increase AND the added benefit of easy carburetor removal. (The header sounds bad a$$ as well.) Removing/installing carbs on an inline 4 with a stock airbox is a real PITA, and I find it's a helluva lot easier with pods. Disadvantages are that you will have to get bigger jets for your carbs, and depending on your bike (you didn't mention what bike you own, always a good idea to put that info in your sig line), you may have to plug air recirculation/emission lines that go from the carbs and/or motor, to the stock airbox. Good pod filters aren't cheap, I spent close to $70 on my Unifilters, but cheap Emgo's can be had online for $32 a set. You'll also have to play around with your airscrews in order to get the air/fuel mixture right. If you let us know what your bike is, I'm sure someone will chime in here with the proper jet sizes you'll need if you do decide to go with pods. And jets are cheap, usually about $3 a pop.

oxcadillacxo wrote:

what would i have to do to switch to the 4 air pods and is it worth it ??

Some considerations ---

Earlier failure of carb holders due to increased stress (unless additional support is furnished at rear of carbs, which support is often neglected);

Probable tuning difficulties, especially when seeking to achieve consistent carb performance throughout entire throttle range;

Performance sometimes diminished by cross-winds, and traffic passing situations;

Contributes to loss of sidecovers, which are more prone to blow off at speed when pods are fitted;

Propensity to ingest water during wet riding or washing;

Maintenance of four air filters, instead of just one;

Expense of a high quality set, such as K&N's;

Sometimes improper fitment design blocks entrance to pilot air passage;

Re-routing crankcase breather hose;

More easily removed when disconnecting carbs from engine (when compared with old hardened airbox intake hoses), but especially beneficial during the several r&r's frequently required incident to necessary re-jetting;

Carbs are just as easily removed where the airbox intake hoses are soft and pliable, and new hoses are less expensive than pods;

Pods may sometimes be the most feasible option where airbox has been removed.

Are considered by many to look really cool.

Some well-respected pod proponents do indeed swear by pods, especially toward seeking that last half-pony of power at top end. While many others prefer to just keep cruising along with the efficient user-friendly airbox as MaKaw intended.

Good Luck!

New airbox ducts = easy carburetor removal

Here's the info for a KZ440-Ltd Airbox:

Air filter assy - 11010-5042
KZ440-A1 (LTD) (1980)
KZ440-A2 (LTD) (1981)
KZ440-A3 (LTD) (1982)
KZ440-A4 (LTD) (1983)
KZ440-D1 (LTD Belt) (1980)
KZ440-D2 (LTD Belt) (1981)
KZ440-D3 (LTD Belt) (1981)
KZ440-D4 (LTD Belt) (1982)
KZ440-D5 (LTD Belt) (1983)
KZ440-G1 (1982)

Airbox upside:
Bike runs great
Ninja Gods happy.

Airbox downside:
Carbs hard to take off and put on (due to hard boots)
Solution: Get new boots.

Pods Upside:
Carbs are a breeze to put on (but as mentioned need to fab support for carb bank or risk deforming engine connectors)
Possible .5 hp increase (if carbs are fiddeled with and dialed in correctly)
Pods are cheap (Important: Good pods are not cheap)

Pods downside:
Cheap fall apart pods.
Hard to dial in pods.
Wet weather affects pods.
Side winds and windblasts from passing trucks and cars affects pods. Resulting in lean out condition and loss of power.
Getting airbox off is a pain in the butt.
Putting airbox back on is bigger pain in the butt.
Pods reduce resell price (to be fair they might enhance sell for some but usually not for a classic.)
You anger the Ninja Gods and men in flowing black suits will nun-chuck you until you remove the pods.
Pods contribute to global warming by osmosis.
Only thing that looks good with pods is Angelina Jolie.
Pods? Ever see Invasion of the Body Snatchers Bunky?
Pods WILL make you cry.....

And the #1 reason pods are not cool.....

You cannot argue with a pod!