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CRAZY AIRFILTER IDEA
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23 Mar 2009 18:26 #274678
by mox369
83 KZ 1100 Shaft Drive
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Have no idea if this idea has any merit but i like the look of an airfilter on the side of the bike, just not sure how to get even airflow to all 4 carbs. Check out the picture i crudely drew. Could this work??
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23 Mar 2009 19:05 #274691
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\'81 GPz 1100 project
Elkhart, Kansas USA
\"Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him.\" Groucho Marx
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Ummm....
OK, interesting idea. What would you make it out of?
Understand that the intake runner length of your bike was calculated by Ma Kaw to reinforce the power characteristics. so, the 3" or so of rubber boot that goes into the stock airbox was all Kaw thought was needed for best tuning. Notice that you've now made all of the runner lengths unequal. Maybe like this:
OK, interesting idea. What would you make it out of?
Understand that the intake runner length of your bike was calculated by Ma Kaw to reinforce the power characteristics. so, the 3" or so of rubber boot that goes into the stock airbox was all Kaw thought was needed for best tuning. Notice that you've now made all of the runner lengths unequal. Maybe like this:
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23 Mar 2009 19:22 #274697
by jordan
KZ810 streetfighter kz/gpz/gsxr
1983 gs1100e
1979 KZ 1000 1428 dragbike project
1974 kawasaki H1 500 sold
1972 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay
1973 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay
1982 kz750(sold)
1978 kz650 hardtail(sold)
1975 honda xl250-sold
1971 yamaha R5-sold
1982 yamaha xs400
Replied by jordan on topic CRAZY AIRFILTER IDEA
i dont think thats crazy at all. Drew up a similiar idea once. Just like a turbo plenum except with a filter at the end instead of a turbo, haha
KZ810 streetfighter kz/gpz/gsxr
1983 gs1100e
1979 KZ 1000 1428 dragbike project
1974 kawasaki H1 500 sold
1972 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay
1973 Kawasaki s2 350-parted on ebay
1982 kz750(sold)
1978 kz650 hardtail(sold)
1975 honda xl250-sold
1971 yamaha R5-sold
1982 yamaha xs400
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23 Mar 2009 20:11 #274713
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1978 KZ1000 police
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I kinda agree with both of these guys haha
From being a totally soaked behind the ears novice when I bought my KZ to now (when I've at least dried the ears )
I can say that the smallest of alterations affect way more than just getting air to the carbs (in this case). The butterfly effect is amplified on a precision combustion motor. Haha.
That being said, I think these bikes are malleable and can be adjusted to run well given any circumstances and nearly any modification
From being a totally soaked behind the ears novice when I bought my KZ to now (when I've at least dried the ears )
I can say that the smallest of alterations affect way more than just getting air to the carbs (in this case). The butterfly effect is amplified on a precision combustion motor. Haha.
That being said, I think these bikes are malleable and can be adjusted to run well given any circumstances and nearly any modification
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23 Mar 2009 21:19 #274718
by mox369
83 KZ 1100 Shaft Drive
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ok so its not crazy, but is it realistic? could it be done in a way that would keep a steady flow of air to every carb? I have no idea what to make it out of...its beyond my abilities either way....i just think it'd look cool.
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23 Mar 2009 23:05 #274736
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Just from looking at it it seems as though it would be hard to judge the tuning of each carb. While you may get them set when the bike is sitting stationary I suspect that when at speed the filter out the side might cause a bit of a ram air effect and knock all the previous tuning out of whack.
Just an uneducated guess tho
Just an uneducated guess tho
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24 Mar 2009 05:24 #274780
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77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
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looks cool, but I would hate to get caught in some rain,
77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
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24 Mar 2009 05:40 #274784
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Replied by Locozuna on topic CRAZY AIRFILTER IDEA
I think the trick is to get the draw equal between carbs and your idea goes for the opposite. Between a v-twin a side mount makes sense since the intake track is equal but in a inline 4 there is a big difference between #1 and #4's track. You could reduce this effect by having them feed 2 carbs on both sides of the bike but one source feeding the four in sequence I think produces too much difference. IMHO
Another question... why would you want it sticking out the side of your bike? Too Hurley for me and just another expense if she goes down but mainly I think it creates breathing problems.
Another question... why would you want it sticking out the side of your bike? Too Hurley for me and just another expense if she goes down but mainly I think it creates breathing problems.
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24 Mar 2009 06:15 #274794
by Old Man Rock
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
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Replied by Old Man Rock on topic CRAZY AIRFILTER IDEA
I would think the Pilot/air screw and carb synch would be a royal PITA...
Seems to me anyways you would be chasing this all over the place to get correct... Carbs can be a pain as is, this seems to be a nightmare in the making....
But go for it and let us know how it works out....
OMR
Seems to me anyways you would be chasing this all over the place to get correct... Carbs can be a pain as is, this seems to be a nightmare in the making....
But go for it and let us know how it works out....
OMR
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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24 Mar 2009 07:46 #274815
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1976 KZ 900 B1 29 smoothbores, Kerker, Lester Mags
2008 Kawasaki Concours 14 abs
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Looks car header. 1 into 4. Maybe put 1 on each side. But the rain and knee location might be a problem....Russ
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24 Mar 2009 08:41 #274840
by mox369
83 KZ 1100 Shaft Drive
Replied by mox369 on topic CRAZY AIRFILTER IDEA
Well, it was a thought, never figured it would be to realistic, guess ill stick to pods haha
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24 Mar 2009 09:41 #274860
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Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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put a turbo on it and be done!:laugh: unless you can figure out some way to ram the air into a central plenum/airbox then let the carbs draw what they want it looks like a tuning nightmare to me
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