33mm smoothbors

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20 Feb 2009 22:17 #266690 by Knight Rider
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I need some help finding some info on 33s, I would love some guidance on jetting! Like the numbers of the mains and pilot jet. They are 132.5 mains in there now but something aint right. I have a 1075 motor, 435 cams, ported head, 4 into 1 with no bafle, had 29s, it ran strong, but it seamed my port job was going to waste so I thought I would get a little more horse power by putting on the larger 33s. was this the right move? I have heard that the 33s are a headache. I really want to make them work, any help I can get I thank you guys for in advance, Wish they taught this stuff in high school!

1976 kz900 1075 435 cams ported head sidewinder

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20 Feb 2009 23:02 #266699 by Patton
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If not already done, could check out some earlier threads by going to the Search Forum box (above right) and typing in 33mm smoothbores.

Good Luck! :)

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20 Feb 2009 23:11 #266700 by timebomb33
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mikuni's or kehins

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21 Feb 2009 06:11 #266736 by wiredgeorge
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What type airbox do you use? You didn't describe the jetting on the 33s. How is the jet needle clipped? What pilot jet? What pilot air jet? How does the bike run with the 33s set up as they are now?

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21 Feb 2009 07:04 #266753 by Knight Rider
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they are mikuni's

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21 Feb 2009 07:13 - 21 Feb 2009 07:15 #266759 by Knight Rider
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Sorry for not enough info, needles are in third slot, no air box, pods are on it carbs are on bike, will pull off today. but i think the air jet is a #1, if that makes sense. the pilot is pretty large, but I dont no for sure. bike does good until after quarter throttle, then it has a big bog, or flat spot, then it goes hard

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21 Feb 2009 07:18 #266760 by Knight Rider
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thank you for the reply, I tried that and got zero results.

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21 Feb 2009 07:49 - 21 Feb 2009 07:50 #266767 by otakar
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The way they are recommended by Mikuni for Kawasaki 1000/1100 is the following
VM33-A14 Main jet= 127.5, air jet= 1.2, Pilot jet= 17.5, jet needle= 6DJ30-4, needle jet= 261 O-6, Throttle valve= 1.5, air screw= .75/out. Now remember that this is just a starting point. There will be other factors at play, such as cams, porting, compression, type of gas used, altitude, etc etc.

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21 Feb 2009 07:51 - 21 Feb 2009 07:56 #266769 by Patton
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Knight Rider wrote:

thank you for the reply, I tried that and got zero results.


Typing 33mm smoothbores in Search Forum box should return several threads.

Copy the red phrase. Paste it in the search box. Press Go .

Could also try different words or phrases in the search box.

Recalling a lot of testing and experimental info being reported. My conclusion was that a very large overbore would be needed to justify the Mikuni Smoothbore 33's and that the 33's were difficult to tune throughout the throttle range.

Good Luck! :)

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21 Feb 2009 08:39 #266784 by School Teacher
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The .5-.6 air jet seem to help with the "Big gulp" but where does one get them? I have googled and looked on z1.

And knight rider Needs Speling leasons! That why his search didn't come up the way everyone else would spel. (Did i mention i tutor speling for a fee)

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1978 kz1000 33mm smoothies 1075 kit
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21 Feb 2009 09:13 #266794 by wiredgeorge
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They are not stocked by Z1Enterprises but they can get them if you order them. You need to give them a call. The smaller pilot air jets do help with the quote big gulp unquote but won't cure it. The stock pilot air jets are far too large as a starting point. It doesn't make a lot of difference what pilot jet you try... you can use from #17.5 to #27.5 and it will still have the lag. I have tried them all. I would use about a #125 main jet. The jet needle is clipped about right. About 200-300cc more displacement would help. The 33s are a tad large for the 1075 displacement. Try the small air jets...

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21 Feb 2009 10:03 #266804 by KruZer
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Go to Sudco.com for all your 33 smoothbore requirements..If you don't see what you want on their website just give them a call. They ship very quickly..

www.sudco.com

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