stock 28mm
- snakebiteaz1
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 11
- Thanks: 0
stock 28mm
05 Dec 2007 22:55
I have a 74 Z1 900 stock motor with a Vance and Hines 4-1, and K&N filters.. My question is what size jets should i be running to get the best performance?? Thanks
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- donthekawguy
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 1913
- Thanks: 8
Re: stock 28mm
05 Dec 2007 23:34
I think the rule of thumb is up 2 sizes for every mod. Not sure what the stock sizes are but 3 or four sizes bigger would be a good starting point.
Rathdrum Idaho
1971 Kawasaki g3ss
1972 Yamaha R5 350
1965 Suzuki Hillbilly
1964 Yamaha 125
1971 Kawasaki g3ss
1972 Yamaha R5 350
1965 Suzuki Hillbilly
1964 Yamaha 125
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- wiredgeorge
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 5310
- Thanks: 44
Re: stock 28mm
06 Dec 2007 05:52
The "rule of thumb" thing started when some guy on the XS1100 forum put together a chart that listed how many step sizes for each mod... While this sounds great, it doesn't take into account that some carb assemblies are richer from the factory than others. The early Z1 assembly with #112.5 mains and #20 pilots running a P-6 needle jet and 5J9-3 jet needle provide a rich pilot circuit and rich mid-range... these areas are far richer than most race carburetors (VM29 or VM33). You can run pods and an aftermarket pipe using the stock main jet but performance will improve if you bump the size some... #120 is about right.
As far as the original XS1100 "rule of thumb" settings, they stink for use on the BS34s that come on an XS1100 or any other CV carb based on my personal experience.
As far as the original XS1100 "rule of thumb" settings, they stink for use on the BS34s that come on an XS1100 or any other CV carb based on my personal experience.
wiredgeorge Motorcycle Carburetors
Mico TX
www.wgcarbs.com
Too many bikes to list!
Mico TX
www.wgcarbs.com
Too many bikes to list!
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- snakebiteaz1
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 11
- Thanks: 0
Re: stock 28mm
07 Dec 2007 01:47
Thanks for the info!! Now time to get to work on it LOL!!! Mike
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- saxjonz
- Offline
- User
- KawboyZ
- Posts: 2182
- Thanks: 76
Re: stock 28mm
11 Dec 2007 14:34
I have a stock kz1000 with 29mm smooth bores and v&h open exhaust with dyna coils and ignition with the biggest jets available and my bike runs nice and strong. I think that with the flatsides it greatly improved the performance of my bike. Going to rebuild with a 1428 kit this winter so I guess I will need some flatside 40's. Time to show every one who calls my bike a dinosaur just what a dynosaur this bike can be. Can't wait to see what it becomes.
79 LTD B3
80 LTD B4 1075 kit JE Pistons .410 cam grind, Bassani, 31 keihin CR Specials...
1980 Z1R, 2002 ZRX1200, 2003 ZRX1200
80 LTD B4 1075 kit JE Pistons .410 cam grind, Bassani, 31 keihin CR Specials...
1980 Z1R, 2002 ZRX1200, 2003 ZRX1200
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- saxjonz
- Offline
- User
- KawboyZ
- Posts: 2182
- Thanks: 76
Re: stock 28mm
11 Dec 2007 14:35
I have a stock kz1000 with 29mm smooth bores and v&h open exhaust with dyna coils and ignition with the biggest jets available and my bike runs nice and strong. I think that with the flatsides it greatly improved the performance of my bike. Going to rebuild with a 1428 kit this winter so I guess I will need some flatside 40's. Time to show every one who calls my bike a dinosaur just what a dynosaur this bike can be. Can't wait to see what it becomes.
79 LTD B3
80 LTD B4 1075 kit JE Pistons .410 cam grind, Bassani, 31 keihin CR Specials...
1980 Z1R, 2002 ZRX1200, 2003 ZRX1200
80 LTD B4 1075 kit JE Pistons .410 cam grind, Bassani, 31 keihin CR Specials...
1980 Z1R, 2002 ZRX1200, 2003 ZRX1200
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- wiredgeorge
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 5310
- Thanks: 44
Re: stock 28mm
12 Dec 2007 08:30
saxjonz - Wow. Thanks for the great info. I am always confused trying to remember actual jet sizes and rejet info so using the "biggest jets available" will be a LOT easier to remember. In the future whenever anybody asks me what jets to use? BIGGEST JETS AVAILABLE!
GET 'ER DONE!
GET 'ER DONE!
wiredgeorge Motorcycle Carburetors
Mico TX
www.wgcarbs.com
Too many bikes to list!
Mico TX
www.wgcarbs.com
Too many bikes to list!
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Skyman
- Offline
- User
- 1978 KZ1000-B2 LTD 1982 KZ1000-M2 CSR
- Posts: 913
- Thanks: 3
Re: stock 28mm
12 Dec 2007 08:32
wiredgeorge wrote:
:lol:
saxjonz - Wow. Thanks for the great info. I am always confused trying to remember actual jet sizes and rejet info so using the "biggest jets available" will be a LOT easier to remember. In the future whenever anybody asks me what jets to use? BIGGEST JETS AVAILABLE!
GET 'ER DONE!
:lol:
West Linn, OR
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Patton
- Offline
- KZr Legend
- Posts: 18640
- Thanks: 2099
Re: stock 28mm
12 Dec 2007 09:12
wg obviously needs to bone up on 29mm smoothbore flatslides. :lol:
1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
KZ900 LTD
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- saxjonz
- Offline
- User
- KawboyZ
- Posts: 2182
- Thanks: 76
Re: stock 28mm
12 Dec 2007 09:44
Lol. Don't know the exact size. I just asked my bike mechanic about what size he put in the carbs and that is what he told me. It wouldn't really matter if in fact those were the biggest you could go if you have a 900 and stock mics. Sorry if that didn't help.
79 LTD B3
80 LTD B4 1075 kit JE Pistons .410 cam grind, Bassani, 31 keihin CR Specials...
1980 Z1R, 2002 ZRX1200, 2003 ZRX1200
80 LTD B4 1075 kit JE Pistons .410 cam grind, Bassani, 31 keihin CR Specials...
1980 Z1R, 2002 ZRX1200, 2003 ZRX1200
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- saxjonz
- Offline
- User
- KawboyZ
- Posts: 2182
- Thanks: 76
Re: stock 28mm
12 Dec 2007 11:25
Perhaps you might just get better carbs like those flatsides I won't be using any more and then you will have better carbs to work with and you won't have to worry about the jets because you will already have them in the carbs the BIGGEST JETS YOU CAN BUY. lol But you are right. Sorry if I upset you. I thought maybe you might be interested in them. They are much better than stock.
79 LTD B3
80 LTD B4 1075 kit JE Pistons .410 cam grind, Bassani, 31 keihin CR Specials...
1980 Z1R, 2002 ZRX1200, 2003 ZRX1200
80 LTD B4 1075 kit JE Pistons .410 cam grind, Bassani, 31 keihin CR Specials...
1980 Z1R, 2002 ZRX1200, 2003 ZRX1200
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- 76 LTD
- Offline
- User
- Posts: 278
- Thanks: 1
Re: stock 28mm
12 Dec 2007 13:50
I had the same setup with the Big K&N pods with 117.5s and it worked great also had stock gearing.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.